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Brooks Flyer/differences?

So, I'm going to be buying a Brooks Flyer, and had decided on the Flyer Special, but I noticed another model on eBay called the Brooks England Flyer. As far as I can tell, they look to be exactly the same, except that the England Flyer is about $20 more. If anyone knows what the difference is, I'd really appreciate your input. Thanks.
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Brooks England is the actual company name. Most people just say Brooks.

My Flyer was comfy right out of the box.
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Originally Posted by Vintage_Cyclist
Brooks England is the actual company name. Most people just say Brooks.

My Flyer was comfy right out of the box.
To clarify: There is a Brooks Flyer Special and a Brooks England Flyer.

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The Flyer Special has copper rivets


The Flyer has steel rivets


BROOKS ENGLAND LTD. | CATALOGUE AND SHOP | SADDLES
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Originally Posted by Vintage_Cyclist
The Flyer Special has copper rivets


The Flyer has steel rivets


BROOKS ENGLAND LTD. | CATALOGUE AND SHOP | SADDLES
The black saddle shown at bottom is called the ​Brooks Flyer Classic.
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Originally Posted by Wolf Dust
The black saddle shown at bottom is called the ​Brooks Flyer Classic.
Not on the Brooks website or on the box mine came in.
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Originally Posted by Vintage_Cyclist
Not on the Brooks website or on the box mine came in.
Do you know what the difference is between the two models called: Brooks Flyer Special and Brooks England Flyer? The "Special" is listed at $171.... The "England" is listed at $190. The one with the steel rivets, (classic), is about $140.
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Well, looking on the Brooks site, it appears that there is no such saddle called the England Flyer, so I it must simply be a Flyer Special ​with a jacked up price.
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Brooks is to Brooks England what Campy is to Campagnolo.

The brand name is Brooks England or what 99% of people call it, Brooks.

Perhaps you're relying on descriptive text on Ebay, where "classic" is being used as an adjective and the model is mislabeled as the Flyer instead of the Flyer Special.

I don't see the pictures you're looking at so I couldn't tell you what the difference is, if any.
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Originally Posted by Vintage_Cyclist
Brooks is to Brooks England what Campy is to Campagnolo.

The brand name is Brooks England or what 99% of people call it, Brooks.

Perhaps you're relying on descriptive text on Ebay, where "classic" is being used as an adjective and the model is mislabeled as the Flyer instead of the Flyer Special.

I don't see the pictures you're looking at so I couldn't tell you what the difference is, if any.
Yeah, I understand, sorry for no pics. The one labelled as the "England Flyer" has the copper hand hammered rivets just like the "Special" does. In fact, both are the exact same picture straight from the Brooks site. I just don't understand why the seller would have labelled it the "England Flyer" unless they're hoping to trick someone into thinking it has some upgrade over the Special model so that they can fetch the higher price. Anyway, I'll be getting the Flyer Special ​plain and simple. Thanks for your input.
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Originally Posted by Wolf Dust
Yeah, I understand, sorry for no pics. The one labelled as the "England Flyer" has the copper hand hammered rivets just like the "Special" does. In fact, both are the exact same picture straight from the Brooks site. I just don't understand why the seller would have labelled it the "England Flyer" unless they're hoping to trick someone into thinking it has some upgrade over the Special model so that they can fetch the higher price. Anyway, I'll be getting the Flyer Special ​plain and simple. Thanks for your input.
Knowing what the descriptions are like on eBay, I'm surprised that they didn't describe it as 'Rare' as well.!
Everything seems to be 'Rare' on eBay these days, even if it's common as muck...
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