Emotional Attachment to our Cars
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I have owned 20 cars/trucks, 3 motorbikes & 2 bicycles... and the scale of upkeep on my cars is/was out of this world more expensive than the two bicycles... Just saying
$14,000 over the last 20 years for the bicycles...
$480,000+ for the last 40 years for my vehicles...
I wonder how may extra Hrs I worked just for my vehicle's compared to if I only used bicycles & public transport…
EDIT; OK I can't help it, I figured it out... 30$/Hr, 2,000 Hrs a year = 8 years out of my last 40 years working life I spent working, just to have vehicles...………
and, yes I know my numbers are NOT close to most peoples numbers, BUT, everyone who own/driver a vehicle has a number like that even tho it's smaller, most people just ignore it and only focus on the good part of owning a vehicle... 15 minutes to drive to work not 1Hr to ride to work or 1/2Hr on public transportation, both mush less $$$ overall.
$14,000 over the last 20 years for the bicycles...
$480,000+ for the last 40 years for my vehicles...
I wonder how may extra Hrs I worked just for my vehicle's compared to if I only used bicycles & public transport…
EDIT; OK I can't help it, I figured it out... 30$/Hr, 2,000 Hrs a year = 8 years out of my last 40 years working life I spent working, just to have vehicles...………
and, yes I know my numbers are NOT close to most peoples numbers, BUT, everyone who own/driver a vehicle has a number like that even tho it's smaller, most people just ignore it and only focus on the good part of owning a vehicle... 15 minutes to drive to work not 1Hr to ride to work or 1/2Hr on public transportation, both mush less $$$ overall.
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That figure includes fixed costs (depreciation, full coverage insurance, and financing) which does not provide "operating" (variable costs) per mile. That figure is calculated on the costs of trading in a relatively barely used car with only 75,000 miles on the odometer and buying a new car every 5 years, thus absorbing the high cost of depreciation. Anyone interested in saving money on car expenses could cut down both their fixed costs as well as the variable costs by buying and selling cars more economically than this scenario. They might even select an economy car, or even a low mileage used car and not trade it in every 5 years and take such a big hit on depreciation.
But why talk realistic dollars and cents calculations when there is an emotional attachment to inflating the expense of owning a car to serve an agenda?
But why talk realistic dollars and cents calculations when there is an emotional attachment to inflating the expense of owning a car to serve an agenda?
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A lot of what is being thrown around here looks like conjecture and speculation rather than being solidly evidence based. While much of the conjecture "feels right" (and, in many cases, seems to me to be way off topic ), it may or may not have much basis in reality - though it would probably make for an illuminating study.
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I hope you don't delete it as people put a lot of thought into their posts and you would be destroying their efforts. You can probably ask the mods to close it but leave it in place. Or you could just walk away and let it run its course, but personally, I would find that hard, as also we get emotionally attached to our threads!
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I hope you don't delete it as people put a lot of thought into their posts and you would be destroying their efforts. You can probably ask the mods to close it but leave it in place. Or you could just walk away and let it run its course, but personally, I would find that hard, as also we get emotionally attached to our threads!
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Sure, they will say it's just more practical to drive; but they will not admit it is a more practical life to just ride a bike and go around to less places. They WANT to do all sorts of impractical things because it makes them feel like they're getting more out of life. They don't realize how empty most forms of consumption actually are because they are 'living the dream,' in their collectively validated imaginations.
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This is the forum you can expect to receive a warning from a moderator if you take anything seriously enough to attempt to have an intelligent discussion concerning many of the sketchy motives underlying what goes on here... at least, that's been my experience.
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Let’s watch inflammatory language please. Thanks
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Exactly, enjoyment is right up there, but then there is pride of ownership, and then there is showing off, then there is also peer pressure, then practical reasons, and then there is….
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It would be fun to drive around for a bit in a '68 GTO or Firebird or whatever, but definitely not practical, and probably I'd be bored within a week. Plus there's something kind of sad about an old guy in a vintage sports car.
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I previously posted what attributes they are not displaying, but the mods didn't approve.
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How is having a little fun driving an old Triumph TR3 any different than spinning the wheels of a vintage road bike?
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