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It is my hope that the high cost and dependability problems will damp down the current ebike fad and they will just go away. Becoming another relic of cycling’s many fads from over the years. When Costco is selling ebikes in that featured area near the entrance, their days are numbered.
10-28-19, 10:49 AM
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There is a 28mph e-bike class in the U.S. and I suspect 2mph is within the margin of error caused by a motorist observing cyclist behavior from inside their cage. Is this really going to become a thing on BF? I'm out of here if, or when, a majority of posts become about e-bikes and what is wrong with them. I don't ride an e-bike but I do not see them as 'cheating'. Clearly they fulfill a need. If I had kids they would go to school on the back of a longtail cargo bike. If too old for that then they would go on their own bikes. I don't get how someone writing as a motorist gets to claim the moral high ground in a cycling forum ... and get away with it.
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10-28-19, 12:59 PM
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Here's a post about e-bikes and what is wrong with them.
E-bikes are bicycles with an electric motor. Sometimes they break or run out of power, then they are just exceptionally heavy bicycles. If the motor is of sufficient power, they can reach speeds and carry loads that render their use on a MUP dangerous.
E-bikes are bicycles with an electric motor. Sometimes they break or run out of power, then they are just exceptionally heavy bicycles. If the motor is of sufficient power, they can reach speeds and carry loads that render their use on a MUP dangerous.
10-28-19, 01:06 PM
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Here's a post about e-bikes and what is wrong with them.
E-bikes are bicycles with an electric motor. Sometimes they break or run out of power, then they are just exceptionally heavy bicycles. If the motor is of sufficient power, they can reach speeds and carry loads that render their use on a MUP dangerous.
E-bikes are bicycles with an electric motor. Sometimes they break or run out of power, then they are just exceptionally heavy bicycles. If the motor is of sufficient power, they can reach speeds and carry loads that render their use on a MUP dangerous.
One day they were about 15 miles into their ride, stopped at a park to use the facilities then remounted to continue.
As they entered the bike trail, they were rolling up to speed just as a woman on an ebike past them and shouted,"you should have gotten one of these!" while giggling pulling away. Her bubby rolled by as well but something must have told him to keep his trap shut ha ha!
After my buddies got up to speed, the woman's bike must have ran out of juice as she slowed and the tandem team poured it on and blew by her like she was standing still. My buddy shouted,"you should have gotten a battery that lasts longer!".
They had it on video and sent it to me. Wish I had kept it.
I don't mind ebikes but some of those people think we're racing them for some reason and many act pretty arrogant about it. C'mon, we know you have a motor, we're not stupid but if you do act silly about it, you better make sure your battery doesn't die while you're showing off!
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10-28-19, 01:27 PM
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750 watt and below
In USA no license required for ebikes 750 watts and below. I bought 500 watt conversion kit, just to be safe from tickets etc.
10-28-19, 01:45 PM
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Not sure on that one.
My point was that we've definitely moved beyond utility and into childish ventures once they're selling 1000w e-bikes.
And it seems to me that the "custom" and "hi-power" and "look-alike a real race bike" toys are rising just as fast as commuter/utility models.
Nobody really cares about commuters. Nobody really cares about using it to nurse an injury or medical situation to make you active.
I think we care once the electric motorcycle gang wants to barge into our club and stake a claim at belonging. The best mental image I have is it's like the nihilists from the Big Lebowski showing up to your local VFW post and plopping down with their synth-pop machine and making themselves at home.
My point was that we've definitely moved beyond utility and into childish ventures once they're selling 1000w e-bikes.
And it seems to me that the "custom" and "hi-power" and "look-alike a real race bike" toys are rising just as fast as commuter/utility models.
Nobody really cares about commuters. Nobody really cares about using it to nurse an injury or medical situation to make you active.
I think we care once the electric motorcycle gang wants to barge into our club and stake a claim at belonging. The best mental image I have is it's like the nihilists from the Big Lebowski showing up to your local VFW post and plopping down with their synth-pop machine and making themselves at home.
10-28-19, 01:53 PM
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I have some friends that are really fast on their tandem. They ride all over, roads, mountains, trails etc.
One day they were about 15 miles into their ride, stopped at a park to use the facilities then remounted to continue.
As they entered the bike trail, they were rolling up to speed just as a woman on an ebike past them and shouted,"you should have gotten one of these!" while giggling pulling away. Her bubby rolled by as well but something must have told him to keep his trap shut ha ha!
After my buddies got up to speed, the woman's bike must have ran out of juice as she slowed and the tandem team poured it on and blew by her like she was standing still. My buddy shouted,"you should have gotten a battery that lasts longer!".
They had it on video and sent it to me. Wish I had kept it.
I don't mind ebikes but some of those people think we're racing them for some reason and many act pretty arrogant about it. C'mon, we know you have a motor, we're not stupid but if you do act silly about it, you better make sure your battery doesn't die while you're showing off!
One day they were about 15 miles into their ride, stopped at a park to use the facilities then remounted to continue.
As they entered the bike trail, they were rolling up to speed just as a woman on an ebike past them and shouted,"you should have gotten one of these!" while giggling pulling away. Her bubby rolled by as well but something must have told him to keep his trap shut ha ha!
After my buddies got up to speed, the woman's bike must have ran out of juice as she slowed and the tandem team poured it on and blew by her like she was standing still. My buddy shouted,"you should have gotten a battery that lasts longer!".
They had it on video and sent it to me. Wish I had kept it.
I don't mind ebikes but some of those people think we're racing them for some reason and many act pretty arrogant about it. C'mon, we know you have a motor, we're not stupid but if you do act silly about it, you better make sure your battery doesn't die while you're showing off!
Mind you, when I pass someone when they''re riding an e-bike, I feel pretty good about it, but I'd never do anything as dumb as taunt them or even say anything harsher than "on your left" and/or "good morning". I'll keep my gloating to myself.
I've met some very nice people who do a lot more riding than they'd be able to without assist. I'm happy to share the path with them even if they go a little faster than me on the hills.
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had my wife and me meeting up with four other riders, of whom two were acquaintances and two were strangers. One stranger, the wife, was riding some form of e-bike. Well, her battery was giving her problems, and she was forced to bail out on the ride early on. It seems that lugging a 55 lb bike up the hills with the rest of us "conventional" riders was too much. I don't blame her. Her husband had to peel off immediately to keep her company, and they missed the ride completely. Oh well.
It seems that this is the greatest drawback to the concept of an e-bike. Electrical component/battery/motor failure that leaves you astride a boat anchor. No thanks.
It seems that this is the greatest drawback to the concept of an e-bike. Electrical component/battery/motor failure that leaves you astride a boat anchor. No thanks.
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I'm always amazed at how competitive instincts just bring out the stoopid in people--we're doing an activity that kind of looks the same, so I'm winning if I go faster.
Mind you, when I pass someone when they''re riding an e-bike, I feel pretty good about it, but I'd never do anything as dumb as taunt them or even say anything harsher than "on your left" and/or "good morning". I'll keep my gloating to myself.
I've met some very nice people who do a lot more riding than they'd be able to without assist. I'm happy to share the path with them even if they go a little faster than me on the hills.
Mind you, when I pass someone when they''re riding an e-bike, I feel pretty good about it, but I'd never do anything as dumb as taunt them or even say anything harsher than "on your left" and/or "good morning". I'll keep my gloating to myself.
I've met some very nice people who do a lot more riding than they'd be able to without assist. I'm happy to share the path with them even if they go a little faster than me on the hills.
But I certainly don't take their wheel and try to compete. I figure he is passing me because he's faster. Kudos to them! 
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As the battery ages you lose run-time. Batteries do not age as fast as you might think. An E-bike can kick butt for longer than most people might care to own them. How many people keep ... real bicycles to the end of their service life? And, chances are good that if your battery dies that another battery of the correct capacity will fit. If that is all that's holding you back, fear not.
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Here's a post about e-bikes and what is wrong with them.
E-bikes are bicycles with an electric motor. Sometimes they break or run out of power, then they are just exceptionally heavy bicycles. If the motor is of sufficient power, they can reach speeds and carry loads that render their use on a MUP dangerous.
E-bikes are bicycles with an electric motor. Sometimes they break or run out of power, then they are just exceptionally heavy bicycles. If the motor is of sufficient power, they can reach speeds and carry loads that render their use on a MUP dangerous.
10-28-19, 03:58 PM
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Obviously ebikes are a different kind of bike and need appropriate regulations. First of all should be restricted to made in USA ebikes, no Chinese bikes allowed.
This would limit the problems caused by an influx of cheap imported ebikes straining our transportation infrastructure. They should be allowed to travel on roads and on-road bike lines subject to the appropriate speed limits of course. No ebikes on MUPS or any kind of soft surfaced pathway used by real bikes. None. If you have an ebike and want to race car traffic, ride on the roads. If you have an ebike and you want to show off to the racers and commuters, ride on the marked on road bike lanes. Its simple, really.
This would limit the problems caused by an influx of cheap imported ebikes straining our transportation infrastructure. They should be allowed to travel on roads and on-road bike lines subject to the appropriate speed limits of course. No ebikes on MUPS or any kind of soft surfaced pathway used by real bikes. None. If you have an ebike and want to race car traffic, ride on the roads. If you have an ebike and you want to show off to the racers and commuters, ride on the marked on road bike lanes. Its simple, really.
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10-28-19, 04:20 PM
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had my wife and me meeting up with four other riders, of whom two were acquaintances and two were strangers. One stranger, the wife, was riding some form of e-bike. Well, her battery was giving her problems, and she was forced to bail out on the ride early on. It seems that lugging a 55 lb bike up the hills with the rest of us "conventional" riders was too much. I don't blame her. Her husband had to peel off immediately to keep her company, and they missed the ride completely. Oh well.
It seems that this is the greatest drawback to the concept of an e-bike. Electrical component/battery/motor failure that leaves you astride a boat anchor. No thanks.
It seems that this is the greatest drawback to the concept of an e-bike. Electrical component/battery/motor failure that leaves you astride a boat anchor. No thanks.
It is my hope that the high cost and dependability problems will damp down the current ebike fad and they will just go away. Becoming another relic of cycling’s many fads from over the years. When Costco is selling ebikes in that featured area near the entrance, their days are numbered.
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50cc scooters are able to be ridden, unlicensed and unregistered, pretty much everywhere, and that has been the case for a long time. I didn't hear [m]any people moaning about that, so why do e-bikes have so many knickers in a twist all of a sudden?
EDIT: Missed the second page, where others have already covered this.
EDIT: Missed the second page, where others have already covered this.
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Helmet Requirements
The thirteen states with a three-tiered classification system do differ in terms of helmet requirements. Connecticut has the strictest requirement, requiring operators and passengers for all classes of e-bikes to wear protective headgear. California, Ohio and Tennessee require the operator and all passengers of a class three electric bicycle, regardless of age, to wear protective headgear. Arkansas and Utah require operators and passengers of a class three e-bike under age 21 to wear protective headgear. Colorado and Michigan require helmet use for those under age 18 operating or riding on a class three e-bike. Arizona, Idaho, Illinois, Washington and Wyoming’s laws include no helmet requirements for any class of e-bike.
10-28-19, 05:31 PM
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I could see the concern for drunks now being on e-bikes because they have had the DL revoked. I'm sure its happening.
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