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Old 10-27-20, 08:36 AM
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Thanks for the read !
Interesting comments about Peugeot measuring .
That looks like Pascal Simon holding that bike up in the air ?
I have a PY10 753 machine which he rode in the late 70s for the Peugeot race team .
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Originally Posted by 1simplexnut
Thanks for the read !
Interesting comments about Peugeot measuring .
That looks like Pascal Simon holding that bike up in the air ?
I have a PY10 753 machine which he rode in the late 70s for the Peugeot race team .
Wow! Beautiful bike. Thanks for the photo!
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It is interesting that Peugeot switched from French to Swiss BB threading in time for my 1980 PKN-10, then returned to French for this 1986 PY-10. I have seen plenty of us amateurs, but never an Italian or French manufacturer, using the trick of two adjustable cups instead of one fixed and one adjustable. The adjustable chainline this provides is a superb example of making lemonade out of a lemon (RH thread on both side of the BB).
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Originally Posted by John E
It is interesting that Peugeot switched from French to Swiss BB threading in time for my 1980 PKN-10, then returned to French for this 1986 PY-10. I have seen plenty of us amateurs, but never an Italian or French manufacturer, using the trick of two adjustable cups instead of one fixed and one adjustable. The adjustable chainline this provides is a superb example of making lemonade out of a lemon (RH thread on both side of the BB).
Thats an interesting comment about the bottom bracket threading ?
I have a PY10FC and it most definitely has an English threaded BB .

All good fun and part of the "french" joy of owning Peugeots I guess?

" its not wrong its just french "

Gratuitous photo of PY10FC added of course .
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Originally Posted by 1simplexnut
Thats an interesting comment about the bottom bracket threading ?
I have a PY10FC and it most definitely has an English threaded BB .

All good fun and part of the "french" joy of owning Peugeots I guess?

" its not wrong its just french "

Gratuitous photo of PY10FC added of course .
Very nice!
Maybe you should post a photo of you holding it upside down over your head!
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Threading on my PY10FC is English. Only odd sized items on the bike is the frame tubes that are slightly oversized on the FC. I had to "adjust" the seat tube clamp on the SLJ front derailleur, by clampling it against wooden dowel of the same diameter as the seat tube, otherwise the smaller diameter of the clampling halves of the FD clamp and pivot body could have dug in hard against the CF seat tubd, possibly damaging it. I suspect Peugeot had to do similar, on all the SLJ FDs they installed on the FC's, including their factory team bikes . The other odd sized item is the clearance at the inner faces of the seat stay ends, right above the rear dropouts. They are too close together to accomodate a 7 speed freewheel (Even though, OLD is at 126mm) so I'm pretty much stuck with a 6 speed freewheel on the bike. The headset is standard BSC. Seatpost is 25mm diameter, which was typical on many lugged CF and lugged/bonded aluminum bikes of that time.

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Originally Posted by Chombi1
Threading on my PY10FC is English. Only odd sized items on the bike is the frame tubes that are slightly oversized on the FC. I had to "adjust" the seat tube clamp on the SLJ front derailleur, by clampling it against wooden dowel of the same diameter as the seat tube, otherwise the smaller diameter of the clampling halves of the FD clamp and pivot body could have dug in hard against the CF seat tubd, possibly damaging it. I suspect Peugeot had to do similar, on all the SLJ FDs they installed on the FC's, including their factory team bikes . The other odd sized item is the clearance at the inner faces of the seat stay ends, right above the rear dropouts. They are too close together to accomodate a 7 speed freewheel (Even though, OLD is at 126mm) so I'm pretty much stuck with a 6 speed freewheel on the bike. The headset is standard BSC. Seatpost is 25mm diameter, which was typical on many lugged CF and lugged/bonded aluminum bikes of that time.
My first post and I’m already resurrecting dead threads!

I’ ve just bought a PY10 FC and have been trying to get my head around the over sized tubing, so this is very helpful. Chombi did you have to do similar with the band on the shifters?. I like how the StrongLight delta crankset looks, very smart.
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Originally Posted by DavidBrussels
My first post and I’m already resurrecting dead threads!

I’ ve just bought a PY10 FC and have been trying to get my head around the over sized tubing, so this is very helpful. Chombi did you have to do similar with the band on the shifters?. I like how the StrongLight delta crankset looks, very smart.
Hiya - Chombi will be along shortly I am sure
I used an old simplex downtube clamp from the 70s .
Worked fine .
I had to "massage" the derailleur clamp to fit the seat tube .
I wonder what the pros did ?

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Originally Posted by DavidBrussels
My first post and I’m already resurrecting dead threads!

I’ ve just bought a PY10 FC and have been trying to get my head around the over sized tubing, so this is very helpful. Chombi did you have to do similar with the band on the shifters?. I like how the StrongLight delta crankset looks, very smart.
Yes,
I had to use the same method to modify the shifter band clMo diameter, but it was much easier with the shifters because of the thinner profile of the shifter strap that made it easier to conform with the slightly oversized down tube.
I also really like the Delta crakset on My PY10FC because of the Kool CF sheathed outer ring.. It gives the bike some high tech cache In the looks deoartment. The bike also has Stronglight Delta hubs, BB and headset.
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Many thanks to you both. I’m off to find some suitable diameter dowel!

I have the same Delta crankset which I could use, Delta hubs are a great idea although almost as hard to come by as the “correct” Maillard 700 hubs
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
Yes,
I had to use the same method to modify the shifter band clMo diameter, but it was much easier with the shifters because of the thinner profile of the shifter strap that made it easier to conform with the slightly oversized down tube.
I also really like the Delta crakset on My PY10FC because of the Kool CF sheathed outer ring.. It gives the bike some high tech cache In the looks deoartment. The bike also has Stronglight Delta hubs, BB and headset.
I was at Eroica in Gaiole this year and one of the stalls was being manned by an ex-team Peugeot mechanic. I asked him about this, he said that the parts all came direct from the factory and the mechanics simply bolted everything on. So, if they were pre-shaped it was factory done, or else there are a tiny number of team parts out there that came with 30mm bands.
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Originally Posted by DavidBrussels
I was at Eroica in Gaiole this year and one of the stalls was being manned by an ex-team Peugeot mechanic. I asked him about this, he said that the parts all came direct from the factory and the mechanics simply bolted everything on. So, if they were pre-shaped it was factory done, or else there are a tiny number of team parts out there that came with 30mm bands.
I suspect the factory contacted all the parts suppliers and gave them the non-standard measurements so they will fit the framesets. After which, they did the same as I did and reshaped the mounting bands and bofies to size. I doubt if thry would have modified their castig molds just for that as the cost and time would be tremendous while the minimal amount of "manual" reshaping would work just as well
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I have collected all the parts and the wheels are being built. The plan is to build the bike over the Easter break.

First task will be to shape the front clamp and the shifter clamps.
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There will be a new thread and photos of the build once I make the magic 10 posts.
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