I think there's something wrong with me...
#1
Hump, what hump?
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SC midlands
Posts: 1,934
Bikes: See signature
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 337 Post(s)
Liked 227 Times
in
145 Posts
I think there's something wrong with me...
I passed on a decent 80's bike worth the asking price of $150.
__________________
2010 AB T1X ** 2010 Cannondale SIX-5 ** 1993 Cannondale RS900 ** 1988 Bottecchia Team Record ** 1989 Bianchi Brava ** 1988 Nishiki Olympic ** 1987 Centurion Ironman Expert(2) ** 1985 DeRosa Professional SLX ** 1982 Colnago Super ** 1982 Basso Gap ** 198? Ciocc Competition SL ** 19?? Roberts Audax ** 198? Brian Rourke ** 1982 Mercian Olympic ** 1970 Raleigh Professional MK I ** 1952 Raleigh Sports
2010 AB T1X ** 2010 Cannondale SIX-5 ** 1993 Cannondale RS900 ** 1988 Bottecchia Team Record ** 1989 Bianchi Brava ** 1988 Nishiki Olympic ** 1987 Centurion Ironman Expert(2) ** 1985 DeRosa Professional SLX ** 1982 Colnago Super ** 1982 Basso Gap ** 198? Ciocc Competition SL ** 19?? Roberts Audax ** 198? Brian Rourke ** 1982 Mercian Olympic ** 1970 Raleigh Professional MK I ** 1952 Raleigh Sports
Likes For horatio:
#2
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 3,419
Bikes: 1984 Miyata 310, 1986 Schwinn Sierra, 2011 Jamis Quest, 1980 Peugeot TH8 Tandem, 1992 Performance Parabola, 1987 Ross Mt. Hood, 1988 Schwinn LeTour, 1988 Trek 400T, 1981 Fuji S12-S LTD, 197? FW Evans
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 531 Post(s)
Liked 1,004 Times
in
514 Posts
Maybe you are just showing more discretion. I used to buy anything that was cheap. Lately, I have passed on cheap or even free bikes because I just don't have the time. I would rather spend my limited free time riding. For me to buy a bike now, it has to have parts I can use or be a step above the bikes I already have. I still keep an eye open for that hidden gem, but I am much less likely to have the "gotta collect them all" mentality.
#3
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada - burrrrr!
Posts: 11,674
Bikes: 1958 Rabeneick 120D, 1968 Legnano Gran Premio, 196? Torpado Professional, 2000 Marinoni Piuma
Mentioned: 210 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1372 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1,751 Times
in
938 Posts
I have probably run this gambit to the limit. In days gone bye, if it had drop bars and skinny wheels, I would snap it up. These days, today being a prime example as I left a lovely old CCM roadster sitting at the dump. I should go back and get it, just to paint up and use as an ornament at the mouth of my driveway, at the cottage and get rid of this bent fork CCM that sits there now...
__________________
"98% of the bikes I buy are projects".
"98% of the bikes I buy are projects".
#4
Senior Member
At least you won't be called a hoarder.
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: 700 Ft. above sea level.
Posts: 3,249
Bikes: More than there were awhile ago.
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 637 Post(s)
Liked 1,281 Times
in
609 Posts
Maybe you are just showing more discretion. I used to buy anything that was cheap. Lately, I have passed on cheap or even free bikes because I just don't have the time. I would rather spend my limited free time riding. For me to buy a bike now, it has to have parts I can use or be a step above the bikes I already have. I still keep an eye open for that hidden gem, but I am much less likely to have the "gotta collect them all" mentality.
__________________
".....distasteful and easily triggered."
".....distasteful and easily triggered."
#6
52psi
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 4,015
Bikes: Schwinn Volare ('78); Raleigh Competition GS ('79)
Mentioned: 29 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 790 Post(s)
Liked 802 Times
in
391 Posts
Maybe you just have what you need or want.
I let a 531-framed Trek -- in my size and well-equipped -- sit on the CL for a couple of weeks not too long ago, priced below $200. Don't get me wrong, I looked at it more than a few times and imagined a couple of possible builds, but that was enough. At this point unless it's something truly special I don't need to snap it up like I once did... and my definition of "truly special" has evolved over the past few years.
So yeah. There may be something wrong with you, but I don't think it's related to not bringing that bike home.
I let a 531-framed Trek -- in my size and well-equipped -- sit on the CL for a couple of weeks not too long ago, priced below $200. Don't get me wrong, I looked at it more than a few times and imagined a couple of possible builds, but that was enough. At this point unless it's something truly special I don't need to snap it up like I once did... and my definition of "truly special" has evolved over the past few years.
So yeah. There may be something wrong with you, but I don't think it's related to not bringing that bike home.
__________________
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
A race bike in any era is a highly personal choice that at its "best" balances the requirements of fit, weight, handling, durability and cost tempered by the willingness to toss it and oneself down the pavement at considerable speed. ~Bandera
Likes For Fahrenheit531:
#7
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 4,486
Mentioned: 102 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1639 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 829 Times
in
538 Posts
I think I'm mostly done with C&V N+1......unless a nice Columbus framed 1983 Gitane Pro ever pops up for me....... Thought I still needed a Ciocc and a Masi in my stable, but never mind.... I'm quite content with just my Pinarello Montello. Everyone just eventually gets to that point, I guess....
#8
Semper Fi
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 12,942
Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1172 Post(s)
Liked 358 Times
in
241 Posts
The first step in overcoming a problem is to recognize one exists. You are on the way to recovery now, just stick with the 12 steps and N+1 will resume as scheduled.
Bill
Bill
__________________
Semper Fi, USMC, 1975-1977
I Can Do All Things Through Him, Who Gives Me Strength. Philippians 4:13
Semper Fi, USMC, 1975-1977
I Can Do All Things Through Him, Who Gives Me Strength. Philippians 4:13
#9
Classic, Vintage Mechanic
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Vancouver B.C. Canada
Posts: 117
Bikes: '65 Legnano Gran Primeo || '76 Holdsworth Mistral || '82 Specialized Stumpjumper
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 47 Post(s)
Liked 40 Times
in
25 Posts
I picked up a near new '76 Holdsworth a couple of years ago and it turned out to be the second nicest bike I'd ever ridden - and I've ridden a lot. Since that time, my desire to acquire has dropped to zero. I know I could find another as nice in all ways, but why bother, I already have one. These days, if it isn't on my holy-grail list, I'm just not interested.
p.s. The nicest one I had was a Frejus with a Reynolds main frame and Columbus forks and stays
p.s. The nicest one I had was a Frejus with a Reynolds main frame and Columbus forks and stays
Last edited by d_dutchison; 08-10-19 at 07:34 PM.
#10
mycocyclist
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Monkey Junction, Wilmington, NC
Posts: 1,234
Bikes: 1964 Schwinn Paramount P-13 DeLuxe, 1964 Schwinn Sport Super Sport, 1972 Falcon San Remo, 1974 Maserati MT-1, 1974 Raleigh International, 1984 Lotus Odyssey, 198? Rossin Ghibli, 1990 LeMond Le Vanquer (sic), 1991 Specialized Allez Transition Pro, +
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 910 Post(s)
Liked 815 Times
in
451 Posts
One Man's Goose...
And I purchased a decent '80's bike worth the asking price of $150.
(I did not pay the ask, however, not that it matters.)
It's at the bottom range of my sizing. It has issues. I certainly did not need to buy it.
Do with both have "something wrong with (us)"?
And given our proximity, was it the same bike?
(I did not pay the ask, however, not that it matters.)
It's at the bottom range of my sizing. It has issues. I certainly did not need to buy it.
Do with both have "something wrong with (us)"?
And given our proximity, was it the same bike?
#11
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Eugene, OR
Posts: 1,326
Mentioned: 64 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 535 Post(s)
Liked 346 Times
in
196 Posts
By choice, I’m down to one bike, and no parts stash. Does this mean something is wrong with me?
Then again, I’ve got a ridiculous amount of money invested into this one bike. Does this mean I’ll be ok?
Then again, I’ve got a ridiculous amount of money invested into this one bike. Does this mean I’ll be ok?
Likes For deux jambes:
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Greater Seattle Area
Posts: 96
Bikes: 1971 Motobecane Grand Touring, 1975 John Deere Men's Racer
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 20 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 16 Times
in
7 Posts
Discretion is key. You can check out my post in the "What other C&V skills" post for an idea of the breadth of my retro interests. When first starting out, yes, grab whatever you can that's free and cheap. This tends to build up a small spare parts pile and gives things to trade/sell later for either better things or things that you've decided you want to focus on in the collection. "Curate" is really the operative word.
I really had to come to terms with this notion for the Retro Computing collection. So many interesting and historical machines were available for free/scrap prices (starting to change a bit now depending what you're looking for), it's waaay easy to just get buried in old equipment that you'll never ever get the change to use, much less restore. So it just sits and rots. Multiple times /year in the Retro Computing circles there's a rescue or "warehouse" clean out from some old dude who got in over his head years ago and now needs to clean out, or worse, his widow.
I also kinda went through the "hey a free car!" phase for a while...that's super dangerous as those take up a LOT of space, but I did tend to turn a small profit on most of those .
Thankfully, I've managed to avoid this with this bikes (maybe I'm maturing!?!?). I got one free bike, a cheap department store 10 speed 4 years ago. I put 1300 miles on and decided to upgrade. Found a great deal on a Motobecane Grand Touring two years ago. Currently have almost 700 miles under me on that bike. When I decide I'm done with the GT, I'll be looking for something that fits me a little better and is a bit more high-end (But totally still French).
I really had to come to terms with this notion for the Retro Computing collection. So many interesting and historical machines were available for free/scrap prices (starting to change a bit now depending what you're looking for), it's waaay easy to just get buried in old equipment that you'll never ever get the change to use, much less restore. So it just sits and rots. Multiple times /year in the Retro Computing circles there's a rescue or "warehouse" clean out from some old dude who got in over his head years ago and now needs to clean out, or worse, his widow.
I also kinda went through the "hey a free car!" phase for a while...that's super dangerous as those take up a LOT of space, but I did tend to turn a small profit on most of those .
Thankfully, I've managed to avoid this with this bikes (maybe I'm maturing!?!?). I got one free bike, a cheap department store 10 speed 4 years ago. I put 1300 miles on and decided to upgrade. Found a great deal on a Motobecane Grand Touring two years ago. Currently have almost 700 miles under me on that bike. When I decide I'm done with the GT, I'll be looking for something that fits me a little better and is a bit more high-end (But totally still French).
#13
2-Wheeled Fool
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 2,346
Bikes: Surly Ogre, Brompton
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1385 Post(s)
Liked 677 Times
in
457 Posts
I let a 531-framed Trek -- in my size and well-equipped -- sit on the CL for a couple of weeks not too long ago, priced below $200. Don't get me wrong, I looked at it more than a few times and imagined a couple of possible builds, but that was enough. At this point unless it's something truly special I don't need to snap it up like I once did... and my definition of "truly special" has evolved over the past few years.
So yeah. There may be something wrong with you, but I don't think it's related to not bringing that bike home.
So yeah. There may be something wrong with you, but I don't think it's related to not bringing that bike home.
#14
Hump, what hump?
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SC midlands
Posts: 1,934
Bikes: See signature
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 337 Post(s)
Liked 227 Times
in
145 Posts
And I purchased a decent '80's bike worth the asking price of $150.
(I did not pay the ask, however, not that it matters.)
It's at the bottom range of my sizing. It has issues. I certainly did not need to buy it.
Do with both have "something wrong with (us)"?
And given our proximity, was it the same bike?
(I did not pay the ask, however, not that it matters.)
It's at the bottom range of my sizing. It has issues. I certainly did not need to buy it.
Do with both have "something wrong with (us)"?
And given our proximity, was it the same bike?
__________________
2010 AB T1X ** 2010 Cannondale SIX-5 ** 1993 Cannondale RS900 ** 1988 Bottecchia Team Record ** 1989 Bianchi Brava ** 1988 Nishiki Olympic ** 1987 Centurion Ironman Expert(2) ** 1985 DeRosa Professional SLX ** 1982 Colnago Super ** 1982 Basso Gap ** 198? Ciocc Competition SL ** 19?? Roberts Audax ** 198? Brian Rourke ** 1982 Mercian Olympic ** 1970 Raleigh Professional MK I ** 1952 Raleigh Sports
2010 AB T1X ** 2010 Cannondale SIX-5 ** 1993 Cannondale RS900 ** 1988 Bottecchia Team Record ** 1989 Bianchi Brava ** 1988 Nishiki Olympic ** 1987 Centurion Ironman Expert(2) ** 1985 DeRosa Professional SLX ** 1982 Colnago Super ** 1982 Basso Gap ** 198? Ciocc Competition SL ** 19?? Roberts Audax ** 198? Brian Rourke ** 1982 Mercian Olympic ** 1970 Raleigh Professional MK I ** 1952 Raleigh Sports
#15
mycocyclist
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Monkey Junction, Wilmington, NC
Posts: 1,234
Bikes: 1964 Schwinn Paramount P-13 DeLuxe, 1964 Schwinn Sport Super Sport, 1972 Falcon San Remo, 1974 Maserati MT-1, 1974 Raleigh International, 1984 Lotus Odyssey, 198? Rossin Ghibli, 1990 LeMond Le Vanquer (sic), 1991 Specialized Allez Transition Pro, +
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 910 Post(s)
Liked 815 Times
in
451 Posts
Whew.
Prologue.
In my defense, I threw back an SLX Colnago a few minutes ago by posting it on the "Are You Looking..." thread. Too small. Too far away. Too new.
Second Colnago on which I've passed. And this one has a "rippled" downtube, and chromed headtube lugs.
Hmmmm.
I don't feel particularly good about it though. Still rue the first.
In my defense, I threw back an SLX Colnago a few minutes ago by posting it on the "Are You Looking..." thread. Too small. Too far away. Too new.
Second Colnago on which I've passed. And this one has a "rippled" downtube, and chromed headtube lugs.
Hmmmm.
I don't feel particularly good about it though. Still rue the first.
Last edited by machinist42; 08-18-19 at 01:35 PM.
#16
Hump, what hump?
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SC midlands
Posts: 1,934
Bikes: See signature
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 337 Post(s)
Liked 227 Times
in
145 Posts
Prologue.
In my defense, I threw back an SLX Colnago a few minutes ago by posting it on the "Are You Looking..." thread. Too small. Too far away. Too new.
I don't feel particularly good about it though.
In my defense, I threw back an SLX Colnago a few minutes ago by posting it on the "Are You Looking..." thread. Too small. Too far away. Too new.
I don't feel particularly good about it though.
__________________
2010 AB T1X ** 2010 Cannondale SIX-5 ** 1993 Cannondale RS900 ** 1988 Bottecchia Team Record ** 1989 Bianchi Brava ** 1988 Nishiki Olympic ** 1987 Centurion Ironman Expert(2) ** 1985 DeRosa Professional SLX ** 1982 Colnago Super ** 1982 Basso Gap ** 198? Ciocc Competition SL ** 19?? Roberts Audax ** 198? Brian Rourke ** 1982 Mercian Olympic ** 1970 Raleigh Professional MK I ** 1952 Raleigh Sports
2010 AB T1X ** 2010 Cannondale SIX-5 ** 1993 Cannondale RS900 ** 1988 Bottecchia Team Record ** 1989 Bianchi Brava ** 1988 Nishiki Olympic ** 1987 Centurion Ironman Expert(2) ** 1985 DeRosa Professional SLX ** 1982 Colnago Super ** 1982 Basso Gap ** 198? Ciocc Competition SL ** 19?? Roberts Audax ** 198? Brian Rourke ** 1982 Mercian Olympic ** 1970 Raleigh Professional MK I ** 1952 Raleigh Sports
#17
mycocyclist
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Monkey Junction, Wilmington, NC
Posts: 1,234
Bikes: 1964 Schwinn Paramount P-13 DeLuxe, 1964 Schwinn Sport Super Sport, 1972 Falcon San Remo, 1974 Maserati MT-1, 1974 Raleigh International, 1984 Lotus Odyssey, 198? Rossin Ghibli, 1990 LeMond Le Vanquer (sic), 1991 Specialized Allez Transition Pro, +
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 910 Post(s)
Liked 815 Times
in
451 Posts
I've no idea who pounced on that one. I passed as my sights were set on the Prologue. I don't see that I posted about it, so I might have missed it altogether? I don't know. Not sure I saw the Torpado either. Is it still up?
#18
Hump, what hump?
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: SC midlands
Posts: 1,934
Bikes: See signature
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 337 Post(s)
Liked 227 Times
in
145 Posts
The Torpado was in Greenville, SC. No longer listed. Pretty sure was a Superlight model.
__________________
2010 AB T1X ** 2010 Cannondale SIX-5 ** 1993 Cannondale RS900 ** 1988 Bottecchia Team Record ** 1989 Bianchi Brava ** 1988 Nishiki Olympic ** 1987 Centurion Ironman Expert(2) ** 1985 DeRosa Professional SLX ** 1982 Colnago Super ** 1982 Basso Gap ** 198? Ciocc Competition SL ** 19?? Roberts Audax ** 198? Brian Rourke ** 1982 Mercian Olympic ** 1970 Raleigh Professional MK I ** 1952 Raleigh Sports
2010 AB T1X ** 2010 Cannondale SIX-5 ** 1993 Cannondale RS900 ** 1988 Bottecchia Team Record ** 1989 Bianchi Brava ** 1988 Nishiki Olympic ** 1987 Centurion Ironman Expert(2) ** 1985 DeRosa Professional SLX ** 1982 Colnago Super ** 1982 Basso Gap ** 198? Ciocc Competition SL ** 19?? Roberts Audax ** 198? Brian Rourke ** 1982 Mercian Olympic ** 1970 Raleigh Professional MK I ** 1952 Raleigh Sports
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: City of Angels
Posts: 4,870
Bikes: A few too many
Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1364 Post(s)
Liked 2,181 Times
in
1,183 Posts
A hoarder is just another way of saying "indiscriminate collector (connoisseur)".Ask the person that knows. :
Best, Ben
Best, Ben
__________________
"EVERY PERSON IS GUILTY OF ALL THE GOOD THEY DID NOT DO"
Voltaire
Voice recognition may sometimes create odd spelling and grammatical errors
"EVERY PERSON IS GUILTY OF ALL THE GOOD THEY DID NOT DO"
Voltaire
Voice recognition may sometimes create odd spelling and grammatical errors
Last edited by xiaoman1; 08-18-19 at 03:03 PM.
#20
Full Member
I think it’s easy to really be s bike hoarder. But if you’ve ever gone over the edge, like me, n+1 really turns into n and n -1 and the price of the bike matters less and less. You want to have only 3 or 4 bikes that you actually love to ride. And no more!
#21
Shifting is fun!
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South Holland, NL
Posts: 11,006
Bikes: Yes, please.
Mentioned: 280 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2198 Post(s)
Liked 4,600 Times
in
1,764 Posts
The more we learn and the less room we have available, the more descriminate we get.
Ten years ago I'd offer €10 for anything with drop bars that looked remotely interesting, and see where that would get me. Well, it got me to a garage and an attic filled with old bikes with an avarage acquisition cost of €34.
Some turned out to be junk, but most were decent bikes that have yielded a lot of parts that I have learned to like (think Stronglight cranks and MAFAC brakes). Some turned out to be just right, and they make up my fleet of about twenty riders.
These days I buy less bikes, but pay more. I have even sold a few, but only to friends. And only nice ones.
Ten years ago I'd offer €10 for anything with drop bars that looked remotely interesting, and see where that would get me. Well, it got me to a garage and an attic filled with old bikes with an avarage acquisition cost of €34.
Some turned out to be junk, but most were decent bikes that have yielded a lot of parts that I have learned to like (think Stronglight cranks and MAFAC brakes). Some turned out to be just right, and they make up my fleet of about twenty riders.
These days I buy less bikes, but pay more. I have even sold a few, but only to friends. And only nice ones.
#23
2-Wheeled Fool
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 2,346
Bikes: Surly Ogre, Brompton
Mentioned: 18 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1385 Post(s)
Liked 677 Times
in
457 Posts
I think that bike collecting is - for the person of middle income - is parallel to those of greater means collecting classic cars. For many of us, our passions exceed the capacity of our wallets and our collections show it. There are many C&V dream bikes out there in all levels of condition, and thus all levels of affordability. After all, a 1976 convertible Corvette with 300k miles, and beat to death is still a convertible Vette... right? Regardless of how it looks, its still an icon.
~ugh~
I forgot where I was going with this.
~ugh~
I forgot where I was going with this.
#24
Full Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Greenville, SC / Asheville, NC
Posts: 290
Bikes: '74 Raleigh Professional, '73 Raleigh Grand Prix, '84 Nishiki Medalist, '85 Gazelle Champion Mondial AB, '81 Peugeot Course, '79 Univega Gran Rally, '85 Torpado Super Strada
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 67 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 10 Times
in
10 Posts
Nothing is wrong with you, I come and go with obsessed searching/acquisition. Rational usually wins and I give in to the fact that time/space/money is not really on my side for N+1. But if I part with a bike, or stumble upon something I really like, then all of that goes out the window.
Sounds like I’m weak willed, is there something wrong with me?
#25
Full Member
Out of curiosity, what size? If you remember. I’m just trying to make myself feel better for missing that where I live.
Nothing is wrong with you, I come and go with obsessed searching/acquisition. Rational usually wins and I give in to the fact that time/space/money is not really on my side for N+1. But if I part with a bike, or stumble upon something I really like, then all of that goes out the window.
Sounds like I’m weak willed, is there something wrong with me?
Nothing is wrong with you, I come and go with obsessed searching/acquisition. Rational usually wins and I give in to the fact that time/space/money is not really on my side for N+1. But if I part with a bike, or stumble upon something I really like, then all of that goes out the window.
Sounds like I’m weak willed, is there something wrong with me?