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"Elbow Flick" when riding in a Paceline??

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Old 05-01-12, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Jandro
How the hell is this thread 4 pages long? A flick or gesture simply means your pull is done and you aren't just avoiding an obstacle. Is it really that ****ing difficult?
Are you complicating things now?
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Originally Posted by BarracksSi
If every group out there did the same thing the same way for the same reasons, it'd be a "fact" instead of an "opinion", and the thread would've stopped within the first five posts.
The fact that other groups do something different to mean the same thing is mutually exclusive of the fact that flicking your elbow means your pull is done. If someone else slaps their hip, instead, that doesn't change the 'flick's meaning.

Either way /thread, imo. We're getting into beating deceased equines territory. Actually, we entered that a couple pages ago...
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Originally Posted by Nachoman
Are you complicating things now?
I give up. Be my guest and carry on with this train wreck of a thread.

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Originally Posted by Jandro
The fact that other groups do something different to mean the same thing is mutually exclusive of the fact that flicking your elbow means your pull is done. If someone else slaps their hip, instead, that doesn't change the 'flick's meaning.

Either way /thread, imo. We're getting into beating deceased equines territory. Actually, we entered that a couple pages ago...
Elbow flicks aren't recognized everywhere, remember -- plenty of evidence in this very thread. Some people might think that the lead rider is just adjusting his posture.
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Obey the flick or we're going to yell at you!
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Originally Posted by BarracksSi
Elbow flicks aren't recognized everywhere, remember -- plenty of evidence in this very thread. Some people might think that the lead rider is just adjusting his posture.
Some people don't like minutiae and nuance.
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Originally Posted by Nachoman
Some people don't like minutiae and nuance.
I never really like Mili Vanilli either. Just not my thing.
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This thread is getting totally flicked up.

It's all my fault.
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Confusingly the hip/ass slap means, to me, "I'm about to attack/move to the front/do something and I want you on my wheel".
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Originally Posted by tombailey
Confusingly the hip/ass slap means, to me, "I'm about to attack/move to the front/do something and I want you on my wheel".
That's the only way I've seen it used. And it worked.
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Originally Posted by tombailey
Confusingly the hip/ass slap means, to me, "I'm about to attack/move to the front/do something and I want you on my wheel".
Me, too.

A little slap on the leg and a nod to the other rider means either you attack, I'm about to attack or let's go together.
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I avoid group rides because of all the rules of engagement.
It is equally annoying when I'm just tooling through town on my fixie and some guy decked out in head to toe spandex busts a gut passing me and then begins using all those signals as if I can't make it through town without his guidance.
Even the elbow flick is brought into play as if I am interested in playing "tour" with him.
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Originally Posted by Jandro
I give up. Be my guest and carry on with this train wreck of a thread.
It's not a train wreck until JChristian starts posting. I'm sure he'd know all about the flick and it would end somewhere on page 37.

In other news. I got yelled at for not flicking. 'Show you're pulling off' cuz the racers behind me didn't have a clue right. And although I'm late the hip slap has got to be 'the dumbest ever of all times I would never ever do it ' signal. The first time I saw it I thought the guy ahead of me was swatting horseflies off his ass.

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Originally Posted by Canaboo
I avoid group rides because of all the rules of engagement.
Too much for ya? That's ok. Some people don't play well with others.
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I got yelled at yesterday during a group ride. I'll never ride in a group again.
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I can't wait until tonights group ride.
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Originally Posted by Canaboo
I avoid group rides because of all the rules of engagement.
It is equally annoying when I'm just tooling through town on my fixie and some guy decked out in head to toe spandex busts a gut passing me and then begins using all those signals as if I can't make it through town without his guidance.
Even the elbow flick is brought into play as if I am interested in playing "tour" with him.


Most groups are fairly mellow and even minimally competent riders adapt quickly. People who ride in groups regularly might just have a habit of pointing things out. The fact that you oddly think it's a criticism of your riding ability might not be their problem.
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Originally Posted by K&K_Dad
And although I'm late the hip slap has got to be 'the dumbest ever of all times I would never ever do it ' signal. The first time I saw it I thought the guy ahead of me was swatting horseflies off his ass.
I'm thinking the "hip slap" might be a European/French thing, since I've only seen a French dude (new to our group) do it. I interpreted it as "pay attention/wake up".
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Originally Posted by njkayaker
I'm thinking the "hip slap" might be a European/French thing, since I've only seen a French dude (new to our group) do it. I interpreted it as "pay attention/wake up".
The guy I saw do it was American (not euro). I still can't comprehend the association with a hip slap and 'I'm pulling off you go ahead and lead a while'. It wasn't even this fast pop on the cheek. It was a slow, deliberate, drawn out action(Imagine someone prepping and cracking a bullwhip).
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Originally Posted by K&K_Dad
The guy I saw do it was American (not euro). I still can't comprehend the association with a hip slap and 'I'm pulling off you go ahead and lead a while'. It wasn't even this fast pop on the cheek. It was a slow, deliberate, drawn out action(Imagine someone prepping and cracking a bullwhip).
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I avoid group rides because of all the rules of engagement.
Don't golf.
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Originally Posted by LowCel
I can't wait until tonights group ride.
Sounds like you are channeling your inner PCAD.
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Sounds like you are channeling your inner PCAD.
I get over things pretty quick.
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