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Old 01-24-20, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels View Post
I bet that guy is just a blast at parties.

For realz, though. He's not wrong. Some people think "Hazelnuts are healthy!" and spread it on thick. Just know that it's candy (Basically the filling in Ferrero Rocher) and treat it accordingly. This would be the same as someone using copious amounts of jelly and telling themselves they are getting a fruit serving.
Wait. Jelly doesn't count as a fruit?

Next, you're going to tell me that ketchup is not a vegetable.
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Kitty is sick. Vet is expensive.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels View Post
I think I mentioned this to you earlier, but even if the power estimate isn't spot on, pulling calories from that number would be way closer than the calorie estimate from Strava.

I was wondering to myself why Strava wouldn't use the power estimate for calories as it would be way more accurate than the highly inaccurate speed/time calorie estimate because estimated power isn't even a premium feature. Then it occurred to me that lots of people would rather think they burned twice as many calories as they did and Strava knows this.

I was just referring to the fact in my 32 years of life any access to calorie burn information has always showed walking burned the most calories and I was wondering if that was correct like Tsntr. I used to run cross country in high school, and sometimes train on the tread mill and the calorie burn on the tread mill was almost always more when walking than running.
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Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
We're #1 !!!

Notice that Germany is second on both lists.

Now look at this list: https://www.nationmaster.com/country...Health/Obesity

USA is #1 ! Germany is 14th. It's almost as if lifestyle and levels of physical activity can play a huge role as well.
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Thanks! Not perfect, but I tried to make them fit along the lines of the tire as well as possible. They came with a jam up and jelly down mounting system, and I just had to fabricate one bracket for the rear fender.
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Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
Wait. Jelly doesn't count as a fruit?

Next, you're going to tell me that ketchup is not a vegetable.
Trick question. Tomato is a fruit. Therefore: ketchup is a fruit, not a vegetable. Silly.
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We're #1 !!!

Interesting to see how far down the list Mexico is. There is an enourmous amount of sugar consumed here, mainly from Coca Cola.
Personally, after a binge week or two, I've cut sugar almost entirely.
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I would like to do a 300k this year. I did two 200k rides last year and they both went well enough that I think 300 is a reasonable
goal.

1200k is a long-term goal. There's one this year that looks amazing but I believe they make you complete a full SR series before you can enter, and that's just not going to happen this year. https://www.ironporcupine1200k.org/

The club I ride with is repeating the 200k that was my favorite ride of all time this year. Super excited about doing that one again.

I'm also hoping to do a little mini-tour on the Elroy-Sparta Trail with my wife this summer.
We're doing the High Country 1200 this year, and a you definitely have to have an SR under your belt. That 1200 will be good, because we're doing different loops, but ending up at the same hotel every night. At least, that's the plan. The volunteering aspect of those are always a challenge, simply because of all the differing diets, and many Rando's are more along the ride to eat, instead of eat to ride crowd. We stay busy on the stove.

That mini-tour looks good. You will have fun.
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Kinda/sorta sad: Signing up for the short route on the gravel ride because you are out of shape and getting back into things.

Really sad: Finding out there are age group awards and searching Strava for the names of the other 7 people you are up against to see if you have a chance and getting competitive about it.
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what are you using to measure calorie burn? I have noticed the same thing over the years between fitbit, treadmills and even strava but I don’t think any of these are accurate. I don’t own a heart rate monitor.
I've measured input and output since 1987 when a cycling coach suggested a strict weight/diet plan due to extreme weight fluctuations, 170# in Winter and 145# in summer. It became a habit and even after retiring from racing and even during my heavy working years when I ballooned obscenely, I still measured calories and output. So, I have 33 years of records and despite my caloric output needs decreasing over the years (I'm 68), I have a pretty good idea of MY needs and can predict my weight based on input/output without a scale.

Back to burn, I use a requirement number based on those years of records. I don't measure anything unless it's exercise like walking, cycling, lawn mowing, snow shoveling, etc. For walking, I currently use a smart watch. For cycling, I use a HR strap and a power meter though the PM just sort of tweaks the HR calorie reading in my case slightly. Without the HR monitor and/or PM, I've yet to find a program that accurately measures calories. None, nada, forget it. For example, I've owned several Garmin since their inception and their caloric readings are generally 2X for me, in other words, worthless.

What I find interesting is that my PM and HR may report 20 cal/mi. today and 45 tomorrow and my records and scale readings prove the numbers correct. The combo of HR and PM never seems to fail me.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels View Post
Then it occurred to me that lots of people would rather think they burned twice as many calories as they did and Strava knows this.
I would agree. One only has to listen to riders after a ride gleeful report a 2,000 calorie burn for a 15 mile ride.
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Another interesting tidbit. Since the cessation of the coffee addiction, I am sleeping more and better, and am still in hammock as we approach 9 AM. In the lead-up weeks, I had been getting up anywhere between 3 and 5, on a daily basis. Wake up, drink coffee, get going.
I put weight on my bum shoulder, this morning, without pain. I may see what it feels like on the upright bike. Restorative chiropractor appt. this afternoon.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06 View Post
I was just referring to the fact in my 32 years of life any access to calorie burn information has always showed walking burned the most calories and I was wondering if that was correct like Tsntr. I used to run cross country in high school, and sometimes train on the tread mill and the calorie burn on the tread mill was almost always more when walking than running.
Walking won't burn more than running, but for many it will target fat stores more effectively.

I use a Fitbit 24/7, but also have the power meter on the bike. The Fitbit estimate when riding is laughable (very low, in my case), but if you have Strava and Fitbit synced, the Strava numbers will overwrite the Fitbit estimates. Strava estimates, on rides when I don't have a PM, are better than Fitbit, but usually a little low - personal weight, HR, equipment info (bike type, weight, etc) all factor in, but are a little coarse, then there's other factors like wind, road surface, etc, that aren't taken in to account.
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Wait. Jelly doesn't count as a fruit?

Next, you're going to tell me that ketchup is not a vegetable.
Of course it is.

So are french fries.
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...and the calorie burn on the tread mill was almost always more when walking than running.
I wonder if it's heat buildup. I get a similar thing on treadmills and on indoor trainers. Don't know about running vs. walking outdoors.
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I just noticed the C in Addiction.
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But with the all of the calorie trackers and what not. Nothing does a better job for me than a scale and a mirror, and out of all the different variations of workouts over the years. Cycling has by far been the best for my body.
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Trick question. Tomato is a fruit. Therefore: ketchup is a fruit, not a vegetable. Silly.
So, it counts as a fruit serving?

#confused
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Of course it is.

So are french fries.
Good news. That means I had a salad with my burger.

#healthychoices
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But with the all of the calorie trackers and what not. Nothing does a better job for me than a scale and a mirror, and out of all the different variations of workouts over the years. Cycling has by far been the best for my body.
My indicator is relative effort required to zip up my jersey.
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I just noticed the C in Addiction.
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I will say that finally snagging a power meter has been great for calorie counting. I'm not currently tracking calories with an app because I'm more worried about riding my bike, but I have counted calories enough to know what I'm putting in my body and it helps to have a real number for calories burned in terms of offsetting/complementing my daily intake.
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Speaking of food, I have a bit of a dilemma on my hands today. A vendor at work is supplying lunch, but I know that it's going to be straight up southern, deep fried goodness. Not really sure if it's a good idea with the ride tomorrow. I'm not afraid of offending anyone if I decide to decline the lunch, but it's also delicious and I want it.
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Re: calories. I don't really pay attention to them, neither on the consumption side nor the expenditure side. I know that may be unpopular, but that's my story and I am sticking to it.
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