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Old 06-17-16, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jacobsever
I installed a new chain last week, put no additional lube on it. Did two 30+ mile rides and everything seems absolutely perfect. I know it's no century or anything, but 30 miles is still more than a quick ride around the neighborhood.
Yup a couple 30 miile bike rides definitely proves that anything you may have to say about riding bikes must be factual - right? - keep up the good work,,,
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Originally Posted by IAmSam
Yup a couple 30 miile bike rides definitely proves that anything you may have to say about riding bikes must be factual - right? - keep up the good work,,,
So I guess you missed my post...the one with the actual facts. Good job.
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Old 06-17-16, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet
So I guess you missed my post...the one with the actual facts. Good job.
Good luck to you & your buddy Jacob - how silly of me (& any others) to have ever lubed our chain...
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Old 06-17-16, 05:16 PM
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where is this post that says to not lube your chain?
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Originally Posted by IAmSam
Good luck to you & your buddy Jacob - how silly of me (& any others) to have ever lubed our chain...
The factory lube seems to last longer than any aftermarket product that I have tried. Who said anything about not lubing?
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Old 06-17-16, 05:49 PM
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I don't understand why you'd apply more wax/lube to a new chain that already has wax/lube on it?
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I still don't understand why it even matters what anyone does.
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Old 06-17-16, 07:34 PM
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Hello everyone

After seeing a documentary about bike messengers i have fallen in love with bikes and have decided to buy a bike.
I am looking to find the same bike i saw on the documentary but i just cannot find its name or model, i am asking for some help to be able to find that kind of bike, i will be posting the video link below, Thanks.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zThITiFGORY
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Spotted Genetix decals on the frame about halfway through.
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the rider is Andrew Romashyna
you could find him easily enough

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Old 06-18-16, 05:47 AM
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Are frames with threaded headset/fork able to be converted to threadless by just removing the old headset and swapping in a new, threadless headset?

I mean, as long as it is the right size for the head tube, the headset just presses into the frame either way, right? Or no?
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Originally Posted by IAmSam
Wow - has it been a week already since this was posted? While I am sure just about everybody else here already knows it...that is incorrect



And this is too...
apparently everybody doesn't know since it looks like most people seem to agree the factory lubricant is sufficient for riding out of the box. Ideally you want as little lube as necessary so there's no reason to re-lube a pre-lubed chain.
now i feel dirty for mentioning lube so many times.
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Yeah, threadless headset are pressed. I think you can get a converter to be able to use a threadless stem instead of replacing the headset. But if your planning to replace the headset, you might need to get a 1" threadless headset.
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Old 06-18-16, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Are frames with threaded headset/fork able to be converted to threadless by just removing the old headset and swapping in a new, threadless headset?

I mean, as long as it is the right size for the head tube, the headset just presses into the frame either way, right? Or no?
You will also need a new fork.
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Old 06-18-16, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
You will also need a new fork.
I already have the fork. That's why I'm asking.

Thinking of getting a frame but it comes with a headset for a threaded fork. I don't want that.



Originally Posted by cDiff Notorious
Yeah, threadless headset are pressed. I think you can get a converter to be able to use a threadless stem instead of replacing the headset. But if your planning to replace the headset, you might need to get a 1" threadless headset.
Thanks for this. Not interested in a converter.

I wasn't sure how headsets for a threaded fork attach to the frame head tube but after looking at some pictures it appears that you are correct, it just presses in.

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Old 06-18-16, 10:31 AM
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I like that Genetix Andrew is riding. All I could find was the TR1 on the Genetix website. Maybe he had it custom painted?
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
I already have the fork. That's why I'm asking.

Thinking of getting a frame but it comes with a headset for a threaded fork. I don't want that.





Thanks for this. Not interested in a converter.

I wasn't sure how headsets for a threaded fork attach to the frame head tube but after looking at some pictures it appears that you are correct, it just presses in.

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**Frames that accept 1 inch steerers and use external cups have just one head tube ID. They will receive threaded or threadless headsets designed for 1 inch steerers. Same thing with frames designed for 1 1/8th steerers and external cups.




** There are some oddball sizes on OLD French bikes and old BMX and Schwinns from certain yesteryear eras.
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Velodrome near me is having a new rider class tomorrow, wondering what gearing and tires I should use?

currently my steepest I have is 48-16, but I got a buddy who can sell me cogs at $5 each, so I may see if he has a 15-14t

Tires I have 23's-28's laying around
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Originally Posted by Jixr
Velodrome near me is having a new rider class tomorrow, wondering what gearing and tires I should use?

currently my steepest I have is 48-16, but I got a buddy who can sell me cogs at $5 each, so I may see if he has a 15-14t

Tires I have 23's-28's laying around
You don't need a higher gear for a track class and 48 x 16 is more than enough. Any tires that aren't worn out are fine.
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Old 06-18-16, 04:24 PM
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I think he just paintes it green and put genetix decals, i searched every Genetix model and they did not have any model like that.
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Old 06-20-16, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
I still don't understand why it even matters what anyone does.
Really kind of obviates the need for any enthusiast interwebz forums/groups at all - perhaps BikeForums would like to be the 1st to shut down?

But before they do...could someone please tell me again how this group feels about whether one should clean and relube their new chain or not, now? Hmmm?

Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
No it isn't. As I've said numerous times before, the factory "lube" on most chains is only present to keep chains from forming surface corrosion while inside the packaging. No one wants to open a brand new chain and find surface rust.

You don't have to go crazy scrubbing it all off but I've found it's always a good idea to replace it with a quality wet lube.
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The "lube" that comes on most new chains is typically just to keep them from corroding inside the packaging in the event of them sitting around in a warehouse for too long. If a chain was packaged dry, it would most likely be covered with surface rust by the time it got to you. I've found that it's best to clean as much of that waxy stuff off a new chain right out of the box and reapply a good wet lube.
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I'm not trying to "discourage" anyone - except for people who think they know it all and end up sounding foolish.

First of all, the factory "lube" which comes on most chains is complete crap and is pretty much only present to keep chains from corroding in their packaging. Would you want to buy a brand new rusty chain? Secondly, chain-cleaning tools aren't very necessary for a singlespeed drivetrain and can be more of a pain in the ass than they are worth. Last but not least, the way eboston words his posts is ridiculous.

Considering I don't use master links, I wasn't necessarily "opposed" to anything he said regarding that miniscule aspect of his post. However, stating that master links create a weak spot and that pin removal creates a weak spot in the same series of run on sentences is just plain confusing. To add to that confusion, he states one shouldn't really need to clean their chain at all, yet it's a good idea to purchase a chain-cleaning apparatus.

Carry on.
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Originally Posted by IAmSam
Really kind of obviates the need for any enthusiast interwebz forums/groups at all - perhaps BikeForums would like to be the 1st to shut down?

But before they do...could someone please tell me again how this group feels about whether one should clean and relube their new chain or not, now? Hmmm?
Was it worth the time you spent sleuthing up those quotes to "win" an argument on the internet? FWIW I still say it's not necessary.
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Originally Posted by IAmSam
Really kind of obviates the need for any enthusiast interwebz forums/groups at all - perhaps BikeForums would like to be the 1st to shut down?

But before they do...could someone please tell me again how this group feels about whether one should clean and relube their new chain or not, now? Hmmm?
I hate to state the obvious here but if you couldn't tell by now, there is no consensus on what is the right thing to do. This and any group is a conglomeration of opinions and you know what they say about opinions. I say pick an opinion that resonates and go with that, you can always try a different direction later if the one you chose doesn't live up to your expectations, then use your valued life experience to further the "conversation" the next time this comes up as it inevitably will.

personally i usually go with the lube that comes on the chain and then replace after the first cleaning, it has worked well for me but I can't say if it is the "best" course of action or not.
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