Do road cyclists make better motorcyclists?
09-09-16, 11:31 PM
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I used to race track. (Cycling) Then I moved onto motorcycles. My track cycling skills definitely helped!
09-10-16, 12:00 AM
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The Tour of California finished stage 4 on the Laguna Seca race track, so all of the resident motorcycle experts can fee free to view this video and critique the rider's lines, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxqqLuaM5rM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxqqLuaM5rM
I was sitting high above turn 2 when this happened. Rossi was a few lengths behind when we lost them going behind the hill, when he popped out ahead going into 10, we all wondered what the hell had happened
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09-10-16, 08:41 AM
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Yes. They're quite nice. Was looking at a Shiver...but alas - I like the idea of ABS and traction control. Something that Ducati, BMW + limited number of higher end Japanese bikes have.
On a separate note - I am thinking there are definite parallels between the two sports as espoused by a majority of the BF race bike respondents. It would be interesting to assemble some metrics here and there between the two. Seems a majority of the respondents are older than 30, have disposable income, professional(s), physically fit (non-negotiable really for a bike racer) and relatively conservative with regards to overall safety/POV. However, it's a limited, and selective pool which has responded to this thread. And to a large degree people that have some attributes like - balance, better eye sight, some physical conditioning (non-couch motorcycles) and a higher bandwidth for adventure/thrills will do both. Or had done one before the other. I would say that the entry-level machine is a bicycle ridden during the teen years.
Been interesting for sure. And the posted crash video is pretty bad.
On a separate note - I am thinking there are definite parallels between the two sports as espoused by a majority of the BF race bike respondents. It would be interesting to assemble some metrics here and there between the two. Seems a majority of the respondents are older than 30, have disposable income, professional(s), physically fit (non-negotiable really for a bike racer) and relatively conservative with regards to overall safety/POV. However, it's a limited, and selective pool which has responded to this thread. And to a large degree people that have some attributes like - balance, better eye sight, some physical conditioning (non-couch motorcycles) and a higher bandwidth for adventure/thrills will do both. Or had done one before the other. I would say that the entry-level machine is a bicycle ridden during the teen years.
Been interesting for sure. And the posted crash video is pretty bad.
09-10-16, 12:41 PM
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As we speak, I am camping on Lake Champlain in VT with my Ducati. Cycling helps motorcycling and vice versa.
09-10-16, 01:12 PM
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Seems like the question got turned around.
Let's take potential motorcycle owner A who has never ridden a road bicycle or motorcycle in his life.
Potential motorcycle owner B has 13,000 miles of road cycling under his belt before ever throwing a leg over a motorcycle.
Which one would be the better motorcycle rider?
Let's take potential motorcycle owner A who has never ridden a road bicycle or motorcycle in his life.
Potential motorcycle owner B has 13,000 miles of road cycling under his belt before ever throwing a leg over a motorcycle.
Which one would be the better motorcycle rider?
09-10-16, 01:39 PM
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Camping with a Hypermotad? And I agree - prior experience helps either sport. Seems like the question got turned around.
Let's take potential motorcycle owner A who has never ridden a road bicycle or motorcycle in his life.
Potential motorcycle owner B has 13,000 miles of road cycling under his belt before ever throwing a leg over a motorcycle.
Which one would be the better motorcycle rider?
Let's take potential motorcycle owner A who has never ridden a road bicycle or motorcycle in his life.
Potential motorcycle owner B has 13,000 miles of road cycling under his belt before ever throwing a leg over a motorcycle.
Which one would be the better motorcycle rider?
09-10-16, 03:46 PM
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Actually I'm old school. 2005 SS1000DS.
09-11-16, 05:26 AM
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).Oops. Just realized I still got the question backwards. I don't think it works quite as well transferring from bicycling to motorcycling because with the latter one has to learn to contend with the effects of the suspension, but still, bike handling is bike handling, and if one has come to understand it well, the knowledge is transferable and makes skill development come more quickly.
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09-11-16, 05:39 PM
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I'm pretty sure that my 100K+ miles of road cycling experience helped keep me safe when I first got a motorcycle 12 years ago @ age 46. Sold that bike last year, but rode it 20K for 11 years and never even had a close call, I was always very safety conscious and defensive. I didn't find motorcycling defensively all that differently from bicycling defensively.
I sold the motorcycle, the ST 1300 was replaced by a 2007 Corvette (stick). I can drive the Corvette without a helmet and wearing my flip flops.
I sold the motorcycle, the ST 1300 was replaced by a 2007 Corvette (stick). I can drive the Corvette without a helmet and wearing my flip flops.
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09-11-16, 05:42 PM
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I'm pretty sure that my 100K+ miles of road cycling experience helped keep me safe when I first got a motorcycle 12 years ago @ age 46. Sold that bike last year, but rode it 20K for 11 years and never even had a close call, I was always very safety conscious and defensive. I didn't find motorcycling defensively all that differently from bicycling defensively.
I sold the motorcycle, the ST 1300 was replaced by a 2007 Corvette (stick). I can drive the Corvette without a helmet and wearing my flip flops.
I sold the motorcycle, the ST 1300 was replaced by a 2007 Corvette (stick). I can drive the Corvette without a helmet and wearing my flip flops.
09-11-16, 06:44 PM
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You could.
I've never quite, though. But I used to be one of these guys running around on a sport bike in shorts. Then one day, about 4 years ago as I was going to the gym one fine afternoon, I turned a corner as an ambulance was driving by in the opposite direction. And, as the EMT slowed to a crawl and stared me down (I'm sure that he had scraped enough of our sticky messes off the pavement in his time to have warranted this), I said to myself: yes, I am really stupid; I admit it. After that I have been ATGATT!
And, yes, I think that motorcycle experience helps you in cycling and vise-versa (although I don't have any fancy graphs to prove the point. Some things you just know to be true. You know?).
I've never quite, though. But I used to be one of these guys running around on a sport bike in shorts. Then one day, about 4 years ago as I was going to the gym one fine afternoon, I turned a corner as an ambulance was driving by in the opposite direction. And, as the EMT slowed to a crawl and stared me down (I'm sure that he had scraped enough of our sticky messes off the pavement in his time to have warranted this), I said to myself: yes, I am really stupid; I admit it. After that I have been ATGATT!
And, yes, I think that motorcycle experience helps you in cycling and vise-versa (although I don't have any fancy graphs to prove the point. Some things you just know to be true. You know?).
09-11-16, 10:30 PM
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Not on my bike you couldn't for several reasons.
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09-13-16, 05:24 AM
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You could.
I've never quite, though. But I used to be one of these guys running around on a sport bike in shorts. Then one day, about 4 years ago as I was going to the gym one fine afternoon, I turned a corner as an ambulance was driving by in the opposite direction. And, as the EMT slowed to a crawl and stared me down (I'm sure that he had scraped enough of our sticky messes off the pavement in his time to have warranted this), I said to myself: yes, I am really stupid; I admit it. After that I have been ATGATT!
And, yes, I think that motorcycle experience helps you in cycling and vise-versa (although I don't have any fancy graphs to prove the point. Some things you just know to be true. You know?).
I've never quite, though. But I used to be one of these guys running around on a sport bike in shorts. Then one day, about 4 years ago as I was going to the gym one fine afternoon, I turned a corner as an ambulance was driving by in the opposite direction. And, as the EMT slowed to a crawl and stared me down (I'm sure that he had scraped enough of our sticky messes off the pavement in his time to have warranted this), I said to myself: yes, I am really stupid; I admit it. After that I have been ATGATT!
And, yes, I think that motorcycle experience helps you in cycling and vise-versa (although I don't have any fancy graphs to prove the point. Some things you just know to be true. You know?).
09-20-16, 05:30 PM
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For anyone who hasn't seen it, this is what I'm talking about when I say professional cyclists would benefit from motorcycle track instruction. Looks like a bunch of newbies, and this is just one corner. I see it in almost every race, probably every mountain stage in the TDF riders go off course because they can't properly handle their bikes going through curves.
If these guys would have taken that curve on a sportbike it would have been bye bye for them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKdVMYo1H38
If these guys would have taken that curve on a sportbike it would have been bye bye for them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKdVMYo1H38
So true
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I actually learned to counter steer on a bicycle as a teen long before I learned how to ride a motorcycle properly
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09-21-16, 11:00 AM
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Bummer. Wish I had the answer to you dilemma. I've had three...'97, '96 & and this '05 SS1000DS. Have done CT to CO and back a couple times and two 1,000 mi. days without a hiccup. Hope you get it sorted.
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I had that issue with a Kawi zx6. Turned out the ECU had gotten cooked and would randomly flake out and shut the bike off
