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Old 03-17-21, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Johno59
They question I'd like answered is there any difference with the insert and what happens when the cable starts cutting through the piece of outer.
Not sure I understand your question. The difference to me is that the liner has a lot more lubricity properties than a steel cable on a steel surface. As the cable starts a groove, the contact surface area increases with a corresponding resistance or drag, coefficient of friction kinda thing. The liner is probably better than when the cable was cutting through the paint!

It is worth checking every once in a great while for the cable cutting through the liner. I don't know what the service life is of either cable liner shown.
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Old 03-17-21, 02:36 PM
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Some builders filed a cable track into the casting.
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I've seen a lot of bikes with this sort of configuration. Given the thickness of the shell and the anticipated movement of the shift cable (i.e. very little) I can see no way that this configuration will compromise the condition of the shell. Before the under-shell routing, we had brazed on clips above the shell. Even though they are much thinner, I've never seen one of them cut through by the cable.

Just ignore and consider it part of the vintage experience
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Old 03-18-21, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SJX426
Not sure I understand your question. The difference to me is that the liner has a lot more lubricity properties than a steel cable on a steel surface. As the cable starts a groove, the contact surface area increases with a corresponding resistance or drag, coefficient of friction kinda thing. The liner is probably better than when the cable was cutting through the paint!

It is worth checking every once in a great while for the cable cutting through the liner. I don't know what the service life is of either cable liner shown.
The grooves are part of the design, they are not caused by the cable travelling a cm every now and then. In my experience the better bikes had grooves cut into the BB shell and the cheaper used a plastic mold attached to the bottom of the shell.
If the grooved guideway wasn't better why is it used on more expensive bikes?
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Then again, LOOK what can happen:
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Loaded

Yeh but he said nothing about towing a caravan with the cables going under the BB.
That's a completely different kettle of fish.
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Old 03-18-21, 10:23 AM
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Then again, LOOK what can happen:
That gave me a good laugh.
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I agree that the cable will not cause significant damage to the BB shell. On the other hand, protecting it could prevent the spread of rust, and that can't be bad.

I recently put a plastic cable guide on my 1971 Raleigh Super Course. It has brazed on cable guides for over the BB but I needed the left one to be under for the new front derailleur. At first I just ran the cable without anything, but it didn't stay still, and the derailleur went out of adjustment.




So I took the plastic guide and drilled and tapped a hole. The bolt did interfere with the sealed BB so I cut the bolt shorter.




The thing that looks like another cable is the electrical cable for my tail light.
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
Then again, LOOK what can happen:

Holy crap! It turned the whole bike BLUE?!
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