Freewheel for Schwinn Voltare 1300
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Freewheel for Schwinn Voltare 1300
I recently purchased a Schwinn Voltare 1300. In my research of the bike, many reviews stated that the freewheel is junk & if replaced it would be a decent bike for the money. In my research on replacing the freewheel, rear cassette is often an interchangeable term. I found a Shimano Tourney CS-HG200 7 speed cassette, which I believe is an appropriate replacement. If I am correct, do I need 12-24t or 12-32t? Thanks in advance for helping a Noob out! Also, please shout out any product that is a better replacement.
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read this-
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/free-k7.html
That bike MOST LIKELY has a Free Wheel, since it's a 7 speed.
How is the factory free wheel junk? A lot of online reviews are full of ignorance. Cleaning & lubing the chain on a somewhat regular basis makes all the "toothy" parts last longer. A worn/elongated chain causes an early demise to the same parts. Maybe they're blaming the victim instead of the culprit?
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/free-k7.html
That bike MOST LIKELY has a Free Wheel, since it's a 7 speed.
How is the factory free wheel junk? A lot of online reviews are full of ignorance. Cleaning & lubing the chain on a somewhat regular basis makes all the "toothy" parts last longer. A worn/elongated chain causes an early demise to the same parts. Maybe they're blaming the victim instead of the culprit?
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How would YOU know?
You simply don't find 7 speed cassette hubs because they don't make them. Cassettes are 8 speed & more.
That bike is an X-mart type bike. Odds of finding a cassette hub on those is even lower.
Read the damn article I pointed out and then look at YOUR bike.
Ignorant responses are a waste of time. Educate yourself instead.
You simply don't find 7 speed cassette hubs because they don't make them. Cassettes are 8 speed & more.
That bike is an X-mart type bike. Odds of finding a cassette hub on those is even lower.
Read the damn article I pointed out and then look at YOUR bike.
Ignorant responses are a waste of time. Educate yourself instead.
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Count the teeth on the smallest cog and largest cog of your current freewheel. that's what the 12-24 and 12-32 mean, number of teeth on the smallest and largest cogs. If you like your current gear range get the same tooth count freewheel. You'll also need a specific special tool to remove your old freewheel and that will depend on what type it uses out of the 10 or so different freewheel removal tools.
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It is a department store bike it is not worth putting money towards unless you absolutely have to in order to keep riding it because you need to keep riding it. I would save your money towards a better bike. A freewheel will not improve the bike enough to justify the cost of it which is almost 9% of the bike (not including labor).
Bill Kapaun They do make 7 speed cassettes. QBP lists 10 of them for standard usage (there are 2 others but for SRAM Downhill and don't quite count) I actually made the mistake once and ordered a freewheel as I thought that is what I needed turns out it was a cassette. Albeit they aren't super common these days but there was a time when 7 speed was still a thing.
Bill Kapaun They do make 7 speed cassettes. QBP lists 10 of them for standard usage (there are 2 others but for SRAM Downhill and don't quite count) I actually made the mistake once and ordered a freewheel as I thought that is what I needed turns out it was a cassette. Albeit they aren't super common these days but there was a time when 7 speed was still a thing.
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How would YOU know?
You simply don't find 7 speed cassette hubs because they don't make them. Cassettes are 8 speed & more.
That bike is an X-mart type bike. Odds of finding a cassette hub on those is even lower.
Read the damn article I pointed out and then look at YOUR bike.
Ignorant responses are a waste of time. Educate yourself instead.
You simply don't find 7 speed cassette hubs because they don't make them. Cassettes are 8 speed & more.
That bike is an X-mart type bike. Odds of finding a cassette hub on those is even lower.
Read the damn article I pointed out and then look at YOUR bike.
Ignorant responses are a waste of time. Educate yourself instead.
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The freehub? That doesn't matter. You can put a 7 speed cassette on pretty much any freehub. You said 'cassettes are 8 speed or more'...that is not correct.
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How would YOU know?
You simply don't find 7 speed cassette hubs because they don't make them. Cassettes are 8 speed & more.
That bike is an X-mart type bike. Odds of finding a cassette hub on those is even lower.
Read the damn article I pointed out and then look at YOUR bike.
Ignorant responses are a waste of time. Educate yourself instead.
You simply don't find 7 speed cassette hubs because they don't make them. Cassettes are 8 speed & more.
That bike is an X-mart type bike. Odds of finding a cassette hub on those is even lower.
Read the damn article I pointed out and then look at YOUR bike.
Ignorant responses are a waste of time. Educate yourself instead.
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I recently purchased a Schwinn Voltare 1300. In my research of the bike, many reviews stated that the freewheel is junk & if replaced it would be a decent bike for the money. In my research on replacing the freewheel, rear cassette is often an interchangeable term. I found a Shimano Tourney CS-HG200 7 speed cassette, which I believe is an appropriate replacement. If I am correct, do I need 12-24t or 12-32t? Thanks in advance for helping a Noob out! Also, please shout out any product that is a better replacement.
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Sheldon Brown can explain everything here on his website: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/k7.html (the page has been up as long as I can remember and makes flagrant use of 7 speed cassettes and freehubs)
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Bill you are fighting a fight that does not need to be fought and one that you will not prevail at. There are 7 speed freehubs they are not common anymore and most everything is now 8-10 or 11 (or 12...) in fact go back further and you do have 6 speed uniglide freehubs.
Sheldon Brown can explain everything here on his website: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/k7.html (the page has been up as long as I can remember and makes flagrant use of 7 speed cassettes and freehubs)
Sheldon Brown can explain everything here on his website: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/k7.html (the page has been up as long as I can remember and makes flagrant use of 7 speed cassettes and freehubs)
Why do you want to 'engage"?
Who the hell are you to decide if I can prevail or not?
The whiny child hasn't commented since. You call that a loss?
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I engage because you are trying to spread false information for some really odd reason. I don't know why you cling to it? You normally post useful stuff but this is just odd. What exactly is the point you are trying to make?
You simply don't find 7 speed cassette hubs because they don't make them. Cassettes are 8 speed & more.
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Seriously...you lost. There are 7 speed freehub bodies and 7 speed cassettes and if you go back to UNIGLIDE you have 6 speed cassettes and if you consider the Maillard Helicomatic a proto-freehub you have 5 speeds. I understand very well that this stuff exists.
I engage because you are trying to spread false information for some really odd reason. I don't know why you cling to it? You normally post useful stuff but this is just odd. What exactly is the point you are trying to make?
You didn't say, they don't really make them anymore or most common stuff is 8 speed on up these days which would have been fine but you are provide false information to what end?
I engage because you are trying to spread false information for some really odd reason. I don't know why you cling to it? You normally post useful stuff but this is just odd. What exactly is the point you are trying to make?
You didn't say, they don't really make them anymore or most common stuff is 8 speed on up these days which would have been fine but you are provide false information to what end?
Why are you so concerned? Actually, I don't give a rats ... about your concerns.
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I think all the bickering scared the OP off, but if he's still reading this thread, I don't think he really needs to change anything on the bike. It's new and still in good working order as is. He just thought he could make it a better bike by replacing no-name parts with known-name parts, which in most cases is a waste of money. My opinion and I'm sticking to it.
It was a beautiful foggy morning with no wind and 42°F and instead of going for a nice long ride, I had to take the DW into town for groceries. I'm the one that should be whining. Oh wait, I am.
It was a beautiful foggy morning with no wind and 42°F and instead of going for a nice long ride, I had to take the DW into town for groceries. I'm the one that should be whining. Oh wait, I am.
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If you want to say Helicomatic is not really a freehub, I can except that, that is fair and reasonable it is up for debate and doesn't wholly play into the 7 speed thing.
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I would agree with the other comments that what is the point of replacing it if it's working. There are cheapy freewheels but they don't hurt the ride much until they stop functioning. Wait until it breaks and even then sometimes just a clean and lube will fix it.
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Bill- Cool your jets for a day please. I generally like your comments but here I don't. Turning to personal insults is not how to win friends or convince people you are correct.
We sell 7 speed cassettes, both Shimano and SRAM usually although Sun Race and Sun Lite have been available too (pandemic dependent). On most current this requires a 4.3mm (aprox) spacer behind the cassette to take up the open space the now wider FH bodies have. And there were plenty of 5 and 6 speed cassettes back in the 1970s/80s. No, I don't consider a Helicomatic a cassette but some might. IMO there's no real issue there.
To the OP- I agree with the suggestion to not "upgrade" the freewheel, yet. If it gives you a problem then sure do it then (and if that's a lot of miles from now include the chain too). But to replace a working part because someone say so is not enough for me. Andy
We sell 7 speed cassettes, both Shimano and SRAM usually although Sun Race and Sun Lite have been available too (pandemic dependent). On most current this requires a 4.3mm (aprox) spacer behind the cassette to take up the open space the now wider FH bodies have. And there were plenty of 5 and 6 speed cassettes back in the 1970s/80s. No, I don't consider a Helicomatic a cassette but some might. IMO there's no real issue there.
To the OP- I agree with the suggestion to not "upgrade" the freewheel, yet. If it gives you a problem then sure do it then (and if that's a lot of miles from now include the chain too). But to replace a working part because someone say so is not enough for me. Andy
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......To the OP- I agree with the suggestion to not "upgrade" the freewheel, yet. If it gives you a problem then sure do it then (and if that's a lot of miles from now include the chain too). But to replace a working part because someone say so is not enough for me. Andy
BTW- Did you see these "children" make ANY attempt to help the OP? NO!
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Actually Bill Kapaun , I did I tell the OP to not upgrade and only replace parts as absolutely needed and save up towards a better bike and that a new freewheel won't solve any issues or improve the bike enough to make it justify the cost.
I am still curious about your thoughts on the facts of 7 speed cassettes and free hubs (which in turn would be attached to hubs back in the day)? They must not exist to have proof of them and someone well known and well respected who knew his stuff explaining everything to you and the entire world. It is a fact in life some people stick to their guns even when out of ammo and with no firing pin with the barrel filled with lead no chance but they cling to it like a moth to a flame.
I am still curious about your thoughts on the facts of 7 speed cassettes and free hubs (which in turn would be attached to hubs back in the day)? They must not exist to have proof of them and someone well known and well respected who knew his stuff explaining everything to you and the entire world. It is a fact in life some people stick to their guns even when out of ammo and with no firing pin with the barrel filled with lead no chance but they cling to it like a moth to a flame.