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Old 01-16-17, 01:45 AM
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Removing free hub

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This is the first time using the forum so apologies if anything is wrong.
I had excessive play in rear wheel. Stripped down the Maddux R3.0 cup and cone which was definitely a problem. After removing the freewheel, the rear hub was rough and needed to be stripped and cleaned. I've read several books, youtube etc and the only method found is using an allen key. My hub does not appear to be secured in this way. The bore is a plain diameter all the way through. Does anybody have any ideas or is this a fixed unit that can't be removed?
Thanks in advance ....
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Old 01-16-17, 02:03 AM
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Old 01-16-17, 02:52 AM
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if it doesn't have a problem, leave it alone... if it does have a problem, replace the hub. there a ton of non-rebuildable freehubs... you may have one of those.... and you can find an entire hub much easier than finding a replacement freehub of exactly the correct type.

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Old 01-16-17, 05:33 AM
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Thanks

Thanks maddog34 - I thought I was going mad or missing something really simple. Everything else just referred to removing it with an Allen key no suggestion that it might be non-rebuildable. New hub it is then. Great first trial of the forum - I'll be back !
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Old 01-16-17, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by TW100
I had excessive play in rear wheel. Stripped down the Maddux R3.0 cup

From what it looks like here:JALCO (MADDUX) Industry Co., Ltd. ********************,????,??,?? Maddux makes rims, not hubs.


So what brand is the hub you're trying to fix?


Originally Posted by TW100
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After removing the freewheel, the rear hub was rough and needed to be stripped and cleaned.

If you've done the cup & cones, and removed the freewheel, then what are you trying to remove?


Do you mean you've removed the cassette, and now want to remove the f/h body?


Seems unlikely, but not impossible, that you should have a freewheel.


Originally Posted by TW100
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... the only method found is using an allen key. My hub does not appear to be secured in this way. The bore is a plain diameter all the way through.
Some cartridge bearing hubs you simply pull the f/h body off.
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Old 01-16-17, 06:36 AM
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Hi dabac, good point sorry about the newbie terminology. I have removed the cassette and now need to remove the free hub body. There isn't any branding on the hub but the groupset is a Shimano Tiagra which was fitted to my Cannondale Synapse 2014. So I'm guessing its Shimano.
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Old 01-16-17, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TW100
Hi dabac, good point sorry about the newbie terminology. I have removed the cassette and now need to remove the free hub body. There isn't any branding on the hub but the groupset is a Shimano Tiagra which was fitted to my Cannondale Synapse 2014. So I'm guessing its Shimano.
How carefully have you examined the axle hole? The flats for the allen key aren't real obvious. They look more like perpendicular ridges.
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Cannondale Synapse with Maddux rims probably has Formula Hubs, should be a 10mm allen wrench.
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Old 01-16-17, 09:24 AM
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Thanks for the advice and replies. I have a 10mm allen key and that just passes straight through the hub. There does appear to be some ridges, which I thought were part of the ratchet system. It could be the ridges that Retro Grouch is referring to. I'll get an 11mm key to see if that works and let you know. Thanks all for the help and advice
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My SRAM Freehub requires an 11mm hex wrench/tool to remove. The inside looks like it would require some sort of splined tool but the hex wrench works well. I guess many are 10mm (Shimano type) but mine was 11. It looks very similar to a Shimano though.
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...it's nice when you get one that is Shimano and 10mm, but there's no universal standard. In general, unless I have one that's pretty standard and easily identified, I find it difficult to find a replacement, so I tend not to mess with those.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
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...it's nice when you get one that is Shimano and 10mm, but there's no universal standard. In general, unless I have one that's pretty standard and easily identified, I find it difficult to find a replacement, so I tend not to mess with those.
I had a hub once that wanted a 14mm hex key. Just to be extra dirkheads and cause confusion, they sometimes want you to use inch hex keys.
But, what they really want is to have the end user to buy a new set of the same, often low quality, wheels.
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Some you have to get from the non-drive side.
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Originally Posted by Will Wheeler
I had a hub once that wanted a 14mm hex key. Just to be extra dirkheads and cause confusion, they sometimes want you to use inch hex keys.
But, what they really want is to have the end user to buy a new set of the same, often low quality, wheels.
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I am pretty sure now it's not a hex key fitting. I bought an 11mm key and it's too big to fit the bore. I'm going to go to a local bike shop but probably not worth paying for a repair when you consider the price of new. Looks like they've won by driving me down the replacement route ....
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