goncalompls

Hello everyone,

I’ve been trying to get my hands on a Raleigh TI for a long time and now I got one in views which I’m keen to get your thought on.

The frame is located in France and is listed for 220€. Campagnolo headset and Miche primato bottom bracket included.















Any thoughts on the value of the frame and if it’s a good purchase?

Thank you

abdon 

If that's the bike your heart has been wanting to build for a long time that's not a bad price. If it is just a neat frame you happened to spot, the "value" to you goes down somewhat. As with most bikes we put together from parts chances are you'll never see all your money back so the question of worth is more about how much the experience is worth to you.

Kabuki12

I’m not very familiar with the TI model. It looks a lot like my ‘78 Raleigh Professional with the exception of the braze on additions and paint scheme. It appears to be a Worksop built bike , not SBDU. The models vary from what we have in the states so I can’t comment on whether it’s a good price. I can tell you that I love the ride of my Pro and I bought it as a frame , fork , BB, and headset so I wasn’t sure what to expect . It did not disappoint. I paid $150 US and the paint was not very good . I already had most of the parts I needed and traded stuff for the rest so I am comfortable with what I have in it. If the ground is wet or there is a threat of rain , I take that bike . It has such a lovely ride but I don’t have to worry about getting grime on it . I just keep it clean and wiped down.

Another damp ride on the Pro

jdawginsc 

I’m not really a Raleigh guy but that would even tempt me, if that helps.

goncalompls

Thanks everyone for your help! I ended up getting the frame. Let the project begin

Does anyone have any component reference for this 1983 Raleigh Pro? Only think I know is the Campagnolo Nuovo Record gear set.

Thank you!

Mr. 66

I had an 83 Competition in the TI format, it was different than yours in that the Comp had space helmet cable stops for the rear brake and no chrome.

seagrade 

Very nice frame picked up for a very fair price. One of the great and enduring pro team colour schemes.

Tens of thousands of these frames were sold around the world and built up with whatever components or groups were locally available. Unless you’re trying to replicate a particular bicycle almost anything wouldn’t be wrong. In New Zealand Campagnolo/Suntour/Shimano/Mavic/Sugino,/Ofmega/Simplex etc. bitsers were everywhere. Relatively speaking…

If it were mine, which it isn’t, but I wouldn’t mind if it was, I’d try and build it without any new parts other than perhaps tyres and chain.

3alarmer 

...this one is from 1984, I think. As stated above, they got built out with a variety of components. I think if I were redoing thisone, today, I might go with more modern, dual pivot sidepull brakes, and just remove the branding on them. Otherwise, Cinelli, ITM, Campagnolo, etc, etc.

Chombi1 

The frameset looks very similar to an SBDU because of the paint scheme and graphics.
The difference is, the SBDUs would have drilled dropouts and 753 tubing.

repechage

Hunch thinks the original posted frame is a Record model, exclusive to Europe.

Dolanarc1

Congratulations, you must be 7' tall on that bike, lol

Kabuki12

Nope! I am just about 6’ but have long legs. The frame is about 64cm. My inseam is 35”.

zukahn1 

That explains the tall height and relatively short top line.

DMC707

Nice pick !

goncalompls

Thanks for all the replies!

I picked this up and was surprise as the owner swore to me that the bicycle was used on the Tour de France


in the meantime I’m looking for references and I found one that seems to be the same here:



https://radpropaganda.org/raleigh-te...-professional/


Starting to look for a bottom bracket now. The headset is Italian 25.4x24F does this mean the bottom bracket will also be Italian threaded?






Thank you

goncalompls

Also a few things I noticed that I’m unsure it’s “normal”. The decals seem to have been placed above the paint?



Also the dropouts are Campagnolo but don’t seem to have Campagnolo brand

seagrade 

BSC English 1.37 x 24 t. p. i. bb shell for sure. I’ve never seen and can’t imagine Raleigh making these frames in anything but.

That decal treatment is quite normal and to be expected. Using a decal to provide a sharp colour edge takes much less time and expense than accurately masking paint edges and gives a reliable result every time. That the decals are a shade short is less common but these were mass-produced frames made in their tens of thousands.

The dropouts might be Campagnolo pattern but they’re not Campagnolo production. Without delving into the specification history of Raleigh’s long production of various frames in this colour scheme, to be expected on a frame one or two steps from the very top of their range.

The long success of the iconic TI Raleigh pro team in the late 1970s and early 80s drove demand for frames in this scheme at many price levels. Yours looks like a really good example of a relatively affordable frame most racers would have been proud to own and use at that time. Because they were raced hard and trained on in all weathers as well there are perhaps no more left now than there are of the top-dollar SBDU frames, which may have been race-only bicycles with much less mileage over time.

zukahn1 

The decals seem right typically on these there was a under coat of paint or chrome one color of paint then the secondary color then the decals and then a coat of clear coat or wax. The slight imperfections in the decals and fairly good paint seem typical off most of the English built Ralieghs from this time frame. IMHO some nice hand pin stripping detailing to cover up the few slight lug and decal imperfections and a nice clear coat would really set this one off a bit. Not a lot of money just a bit of work and patience.