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Old 01-01-19, 08:51 AM
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Kickstand Advice

Hello,

So I’ve got a Polygon bend RIV, and i can’t seem to find a kickstand that fits it.

The frame has no mounting screws, and it doesn’t fit a regular “wrap around” stand, because the frame’s gap is quite wide.

Anyone has a bend riv and/or can recommend me a kickstand?
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Old 01-01-19, 09:56 AM
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Some like this that will fit your chain stay.
Universal kick stand
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Old 01-01-19, 10:18 AM
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Be careful when attempting to mount a kickstand on a frame not originally designed for it. More often than not, chain stays get bent or crushed in an attempt to get the kickstand to stay tight on the frame. This is especially the case with loaded touring rigs.

I recommend you look at one of the detachable folding stick types (can’t recall the name/brand).

BTW, that RIV looks like a nice ride. Enjoy!


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Old 01-01-19, 10:46 AM
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what's this? if they make this would they make a larger one?

Polygon 20/24/26 Bike Stand
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Old 01-01-19, 12:34 PM
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There is a Riv bike google group to expand your information quest widely, on a specific bike..

Click-Stand Home Page may be an option
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Old 01-02-19, 09:22 PM
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I just cut then tie a short , thin length of bungee cord to hold the front brake lever closed, then lean the bike against something solid. It is very helpful for almost all stops, and cheaply done, with light weight .
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Old 01-03-19, 10:59 AM
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Maybe one of these:
https://upstandingbicycle.com/

https://www.amazon.com/RockBros-Kickstand-Release-Mountain-Bicycle/dp/B06Y5FHLD9/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1546534642&sr=8-4&keywords=upstand

https://www.amazon.com/Defary-Removable-Kickstand-Stainless-Material/dp/B074T8V8PH/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1546534685&sr=8-7&keywords=upstand

I don't have first hand experience with any of these so don't know how well they work. I am considering buying the first one (Upstand).

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Old 01-03-19, 11:03 AM
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Better still if not riding the bike Lock it up to something solid.. immovable

NB ; there is a brake lever, with a button to hold it on, they're made for Trikes with 7/8" tube grips and straight or riser bars not drop bars..
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Old 01-03-19, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FBOATSB
Some like this that will fit your chain stay.
Universal kick stand
I bought that exact one. It didn't fit snugly on the bike and actually scratched the paint.
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Old 01-04-19, 10:06 PM
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Something like this?
Bolt on Kickstand Rear Axle double mount for 26" wheel, steel black with spring

Actually, this one is better:
https://hollandbikeshop.com/en-gb/bi...ith-kickstand/

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Old 01-04-19, 10:30 PM
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If those back chainstays are straight, you MAY be able to get something like the Bontrager rear mount around the disc brake. Possibly a Pletscher stand, but those are fairly spendy and large. Beyond that, if you find something, let me know!

Originally Posted by mtb_addict
Just lean it against something. Aftermarket kickstand is not worth the hassle.

They can damage your bike.
They can scrap your heels.
They are not all that stable.
They are often difficult to install cleanly.

And most important...they usually very ugly.
Leaning against stuff can damage my paint as well.
I can get my bike stuck in or damaged by others in a bike rack.
My bike falls just as often leaning as it does on its appropriately adjusted kickstand, if not more.
There isn't always a convenient or socially appropriate place to lean a bike.

And most importantly: I've never regretted having the option to use a kickstand.
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Old 02-14-19, 12:31 PM
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https://www.click-stand.com/


I have to say that I'm completely baffled by these prop-stands! How could they possibly work? It seems to me that unless the stand was precisely perpendicular to the frame, the bike would just tend to roll away from it (since most bikes lack parking brakes). Even if they were in just the right position, unless they were located fore-and-aft at the bike's center of gravity (particularly if it were heavily-laden at one end or the other), the bike would still tend to be tippy. And even then, one would have to make sure that the angle that the bike was leaning was within a "sweet spot" so that it didn't lean too far (and thus be even more tippy), or not lean far enough (and be likely to fall or be blown over to the unsupported side), particularly on uneven ground.
/confused

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Old 02-14-19, 01:52 PM
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I like the Greenfield Stabilizer I put on my bike. I don't think I've ever had my bike fall over while propped up with it.
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I bet I can make one out of a old tent pole for free.
Bespoke Hand made for each buyer, if you can start a competing company , doing it for less , knock your self out...
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I don't object to the price (it's far from the most expensive accessory out there), it's to the logic of the device itself. Structurally, it *might* make sense if the prop had a second section that also attached to the lowest part of the frame. But a bike that rolls, a prop that isn't securely attached at either end, and a ground surface that may be friable, add up to a fundamentally unstable set of connections. (Can you feature anyone trying this with say, a motorcycle?!) And that's even setting aside the points about it requiring some way to lock at least one brake, to find the optimal "lean" angle, etc. It seems like a solution in search of a problem.

Also, having to carry a separate accessory runs in the opposite direction of my preferences, which are to have as many essentials as possible be integrated into the bike, so I won't forget them. I just don't get it. But props to those who can! (see what I did there?)
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Old 02-14-19, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes
I like the Greenfield Stabilizer I put on my bike.
+1

https://www.modernbike.com/greenfiel...izer-kickstand
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Old 02-14-19, 04:13 PM
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In the 80's I got a rear stand, made by Bridgestone in Japan .. it adds a locking catch so it will not fold up on its own..

My Koga WTR has 2, center and one on the lowrider rack ..

2 legged one on another bike (welded bigger feet on the ends)

Pletscher is a bit nicer than Greenfield .. their 'Zoom' is adjustable in length (with out a hacksaw), so can be made longer or shorter.








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Don't bolt a kickstand to a bike frame that is not designed for one. Fraught with danger. It's easy to over-tighten and crush the tubes. If you don't get it tight then it will move and scrape the tubes. Either way, go for a detachable kickstand.
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Old 02-14-19, 05:17 PM
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for real minimalism there is the https://upstandingbicycle.com/upstand-bike-stand/

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Originally Posted by legendoniance
Hello,

So I’ve got a Polygon bend RIV, and i can’t seem to find a kickstand that fits it.

The frame has no mounting screws, and it doesn’t fit a regular “wrap around” stand, because the frame’s gap is quite wide.

Anyone has a bend riv and/or can recommend me a kickstand?
Originally Posted by fietsbob
for real minimalism there is the https://upstandingbicycle.com/upstand-bike-stand/

The Upstand website says they have versions for both skewer and thru axle.
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Originally Posted by drlogik
Don't bolt a kickstand to a bike frame that is not designed for one. Fraught with danger. It's easy to over-tighten and crush the tubes. If you don't get it tight then it will move and scrape the tubes.
No doubt that's true.

Having said that, I'm building up a porteur right now, and a porteur's gotta have a stand. I'm planning to fabricate a biped stand for it that will mount in the usual area (just behind the BB shell) and I wonder what can be done to ameliorate the risk of crushing the chainstays. On another thread (I'm too lazy to look for it), a poster mentioned that he inserted tight-fitting corks into the chainstay openings from inside the BB shell, to provide resistance against crushing. Cork seems a bit weak to me, so I'm going to try tapering a couple of dowels to fit into the openings. (I'll saturate them in epoxy first to keep them from absorbing water, and then bed them in something that will help prevent moisture from getting at the steel).

I think that some kind of chunky sleeves (Delrin?) to go around the mounting bolts that pass between the seatstays, between the top and bottom plates, to prevent them from being over-tightened would be sensible too.

Finally, I wonder how the BB shell itself could be used to help reduce the risk of crushing the chainstays, since it's made of much thicker steel.
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Originally Posted by Northwestrider
I just cut then tie a short , thin length of bungee cord to hold the front brake lever closed, then lean the bike against something solid. It is very helpful for almost all stops, and cheaply done, with light weight .
Shades of the Rhode Gear Flickstand!

To be fair, an old toe strap clamping the brake lever would do nearly as well. Even better if the toe strap clamps between the front wheel and the down tube, immobilizing the front wheel from rolling and the fork from rotating, or flopping.

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Originally Posted by legendoniance
Hello,

So I’ve got a Polygon bend RIV, and i can’t seem to find a kickstand that fits it.

The frame has no mounting screws, and it doesn’t fit a regular “wrap around” stand, because the frame’s gap is quite wide.

Anyone has a bend riv and/or can recommend me a kickstand?
don't get a kickstand the weight will keep u from achieving greatness....bikes are all about weight right
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Originally Posted by Road Fan


Shades of the Rhode Gear Flickstand!

To be fair, an old toe strap clamping the brake lever would do nearly as well. Even better if the toe strap clamps between the front wheel and the down tube, immobilizing the front wheel from rolling and the fork from rotating, or flopping.
a thickish rubber band would do, looping over down tube from valve stem , to valve stem again,

and unlike the " Rhode Gear Flickstand " you can have mudguards on the front wheel ..






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