Pirelli Cinturato Velo tubeless
11-09-18, 03:17 PM
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Pirelli Cinturato Velo tubeless
This is a new tire from Pirelli being marketed for “gravel” but it has obvious commuter appeal. Bike Rumor has a really long write up and the Rolling Resistance site has tested it for puncture and speed. Here are salient factoids:
tubeless style
slick tread, pretty thick
chopped kevlar in tread
alleged cleverness with silica particles shaped like rods and not spheres like you get out of that DO NOT EAT packet in your jerky
kevlar breaker under tread
wall to wall nylon layer for sidewall protection
tests show both faster and stronger than a Gatorskin
700C sizes 26-35mm
$52US
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance...rato-velo-2018
https://bikerumor.com/2018/05/28/all...trade-bianche/
whaddya think? I’d try it.
tubeless style
slick tread, pretty thick
chopped kevlar in tread
alleged cleverness with silica particles shaped like rods and not spheres like you get out of that DO NOT EAT packet in your jerky
kevlar breaker under tread
wall to wall nylon layer for sidewall protection
tests show both faster and stronger than a Gatorskin
700C sizes 26-35mm
$52US
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance...rato-velo-2018
https://bikerumor.com/2018/05/28/all...trade-bianche/
whaddya think? I’d try it.
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This is a new tire from Pirelli being marketed for “gravel” but it has obvious commuter appeal. Bike Rumor has a really long write up and the Rolling Resistance site has tested it for puncture and speed. Here are salient factoids:
tubeless style
slick tread, pretty thick
chopped kevlar in tread
alleged cleverness with silica particles shaped like rods and not spheres like you get out of that DO NOT EAT packet in your jerky
kevlar breaker under tread
wall to wall nylon layer for sidewall protection
tests show both faster and stronger than a Gatorskin
700C sizes 26-35mm
$52US
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance...rato-velo-2018
https://bikerumor.com/2018/05/28/all...trade-bianche/
whaddya think? I’d try it.
tubeless style
slick tread, pretty thick
chopped kevlar in tread
alleged cleverness with silica particles shaped like rods and not spheres like you get out of that DO NOT EAT packet in your jerky
kevlar breaker under tread
wall to wall nylon layer for sidewall protection
tests show both faster and stronger than a Gatorskin
700C sizes 26-35mm
$52US
https://www.bicyclerollingresistance...rato-velo-2018
https://bikerumor.com/2018/05/28/all...trade-bianche/
whaddya think? I’d try it.
For the commuter, as I'd probably want a 32mm, the only thing bothering me is their chart recommendation (in the bikerumor article) to use 21mm internal-width rims which I don't have.
11-12-18, 01:02 AM
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Just to give an idea how this tire is performing, here's the 80 psi rolling resistance vs puncture score for all the roadie tires. Red dot is the Cinturato, orange is the Gatorskin and green is the Grand Prix 4 Season. Makes you wonder what they could do going down and leftward, or if there's some trade-off that's not made clear in the marketing.
Not sure why I'm nerding out so hard about this, I'm presently commuting on a MTB
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Just to give an idea how this tire is performing, here's the 80 psi rolling resistance vs puncture score for all the roadie tires. Red dot is the Cinturato, orange is the Gatorskin and green is the Grand Prix 4 Season. Makes you wonder what they could do going down and leftward, or if there's some trade-off that's not made clear in the marketing.
Not sure why I'm nerding out so hard about this, I'm presently commuting on a MTB
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Not sure why I'm nerding out so hard about this, I'm presently commuting on a MTB
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Also.. curious on the BRR website puncture tests. When they test a tubeless tire setup and with sealant (20ml per this test), is the score a result of what it takes to puncture a tire to a degree the sealant is no longer effective? IOW, if I rode these tires with a tube, would puncture resistance be even 'better' in the lab (but not real world) as I'd be adding the thickness of an inner tube to the equation?
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Kinda a remarkable score. I wonder how they actually feel when ridden. They are a 60tpi tire.
Also.. curious on the BRR website puncture tests. When they test a tubeless tire setup and with sealant (20ml per this test), is the score a result of what it takes to puncture a tire to a degree the sealant is no longer effective? IOW, if I rode these tires with a tube, would puncture resistance be even 'better' in the lab (but not real world) as I'd be adding the thickness of an inner tube to the equation?
Also.. curious on the BRR website puncture tests. When they test a tubeless tire setup and with sealant (20ml per this test), is the score a result of what it takes to puncture a tire to a degree the sealant is no longer effective? IOW, if I rode these tires with a tube, would puncture resistance be even 'better' in the lab (but not real world) as I'd be adding the thickness of an inner tube to the equation?
The puncture test is force to drive a 1mm needle through. Sealant or tube would make no difference to the score. It must take a lot less time to do the test for a tubeless tire!
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I mean they're still not a GP4000S2. They just score nice next to the other armored tires. The tubelessness helps a lot. Feel is subjective, maybe subjective to price and tribe. The Compass tire didn't do that well and people love 'em.I
The puncture test is force to drive a 1mm needle through. Sealant or tube would make no difference to the score. It must take a lot less time to do the test for a tubeless tire!
The puncture test is force to drive a 1mm needle through. Sealant or tube would make no difference to the score. It must take a lot less time to do the test for a tubeless tire!
I do wish that BRR would also test the TLR tires with tubes as a matter of course.
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