Is Vilano a good company?
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Is Vilano a good company?
Im looking at getting an entry level road bike, and I found one from a company that Ive never heard of before. if Vilano a good manufacturer?
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Vilano is just a label, probably owned by an umbrella corporation which also owns 500 other generic/no-name labels. Probably gets the frames cheap from the same factory that sells the said frames to larger brand names as lower end models.
If you're looking for a cheap bike, go for it, though those shifters look dreadful. Have an LBS build it for you if you are not mechanically inclined to check spoke tension, bearing pre-load, etc.
If you're looking for a cheap bike, go for it, though those shifters look dreadful. Have an LBS build it for you if you are not mechanically inclined to check spoke tension, bearing pre-load, etc.
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You want super low price? dont expect much in quality .. decent wheels cost more than that whole bike sells for.
YGWYPF.
It's a Chinese factory Vilano is just a made up name . root of the name may be Vile.. and added ano to sound Italian ..
Wall Mart is a good , profitable, company but their bikes are not very good but sell at a profit.
buy stock shares not their bikes.
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It's a Chinese factory Vilano is just a made up name . root of the name may be Vile.. and added ano to sound Italian ..
Wall Mart is a good , profitable, company but their bikes are not very good but sell at a profit.
buy stock shares not their bikes.
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It's made of 6061 alloy, which is weaker than 7005. 6061 alloy is used on low-end frames because it is easier to weld. They also don't specify what derailleurs they use, which means *cheap* and when you can't figure out why the damn thing won't shift right, your mechanic is going to say "because you got that cheap-ass derailleur. I'm not fixing it you gotta upgrade."
I'm not saying don't buy it, or the frame is dangerous or anything like that. These are just things to keep in mind.
I'm not saying don't buy it, or the frame is dangerous or anything like that. These are just things to keep in mind.
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You are much better off getting something used, or going on BikesDirect than that BSO.
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I have seen a bunch come through the shop and they are pretty junky. Pretty much any bike you see for sale via Amazon or Wally-Mart or places like that is generally not worth the time or money. Find a local shop in your area and try some bikes out, you will come out on top in that deal whereas you will lose money on those online bikes because you will have to find a shop to get it built and tuned and deal with low grade components that are more of a pain then they are worth.
Those odd shifters are a pain in the butt to deal with and they shift like crap. Generally most bike parts that use a screwdriver to tighten down with should be avoided. Hex wrenches/allen keys are the norm because they are less likely to strip and easier to torque down properly.
As others have said there is probably a factory in Asia somewhere making cheap low end frames and slapping different names on it.
Those odd shifters are a pain in the butt to deal with and they shift like crap. Generally most bike parts that use a screwdriver to tighten down with should be avoided. Hex wrenches/allen keys are the norm because they are less likely to strip and easier to torque down properly.
As others have said there is probably a factory in Asia somewhere making cheap low end frames and slapping different names on it.
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Used on Craigslist will get you the best bang for your buck in that price range. What is your budget and what are you looking for in a bike? Bikes Direct has a lot of bikes to choose from. This one is pretty low end, but the shifters are better than that Amazon bike.
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Im looking at getting an entry level road bike, and I found one from a company that Ive never heard of before. if Vilano a good manufacturer?
Amazon.com : Vilano Aluminum Road Bike 21 Speed Shimano, Black, 54cm Medium : Road Bicycles : Sports & Outdoors
Amazon.com : Vilano Aluminum Road Bike 21 Speed Shimano, Black, 54cm Medium : Road Bicycles : Sports & Outdoors
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One good indicator is that it's 21 speed. That means 3x7.
7-speed is pretty much dead, and only seen on low end bikes sold in big box stores. Shop around for 7s cassettes and other replacement parts and you'll see just how obsolete that is.
7-speed is pretty much dead, and only seen on low end bikes sold in big box stores. Shop around for 7s cassettes and other replacement parts and you'll see just how obsolete that is.
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I've run across a couple of those Amazon bikes before. The frame is probably credible, but the amount you would spend upgrading this bike to a rideable would be better spent getting something better, even BikesDirect better. I've seen some guys at work with those BikesDirect bikes, and they function well as daily users. Something I would not have tried with those Amazon bikes. Used on CL is good as well . Just know what you are getting into.
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Bikes are like anything else. You get what you pay for. For the most party more money equals less weight. The fact is when you get to a sweet spot in the middle, you get the most bang for the buck. After that you are buying a name and glitz.
Back to the bike in question. It would seem to be a reasonable entry level bike.
Back to the bike in question. It would seem to be a reasonable entry level bike.
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Those shifters would be a major turn-off for me, maybe even a deal breaker. That bike is not a good candidate for one-part-as-a-time upgrades either.
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The reviews on Amazon are pretty funny. Some claim it weighs less than 16 lbs and one says it weighs no more than 3 or 4 lbs. It's also capable of speeds up to 40 mph. The only negatives I saw were that the chain falls off sometimes going over curbs and the usual broken spokes and flat tires. One claimed he broke two spokes and they sent him a complete set of new wheels.
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Is vilano a good company?
Villano isn't a company. It is a brand name affixed to a low priced bicycle, nothing more. So, you have to look at the price along with the limited description of the components used to build it. Not very impressive. Generally speaking, the more detailed the list of the specific makes and models of each and every component used to build a specific bike, the more reliable the brand name
The product information on the web page selling that bike is pathetic, I would never buy anything which provided so little information
Villano isn't a company. It is a brand name affixed to a low priced bicycle, nothing more. So, you have to look at the price along with the limited description of the components used to build it. Not very impressive. Generally speaking, the more detailed the list of the specific makes and models of each and every component used to build a specific bike, the more reliable the brand name
The product information on the web page selling that bike is pathetic, I would never buy anything which provided so little information
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I bought a vilano because I needed a bike that might get stolen in dc. I didn’t want to spend more than 500 bucks. What I got was a reasonable bike although as pointed out the shifters were trash. As soon as I came out of the saddle I would knock it out of gear with my knee. Weird placement maybe but definitely didn’t like having to shift grip to change gears.
So here’s what I did. Bought some decent commuter pedals, new micro shift shifters, new jag wire cables, and a new saddle. Now with about 150 bucks worth of upgrades it is a bike I am proud of and enjoy riding.
It isn’t light but to be honest neither am I. At 200lbs a lb here or there on the bike isn’t going to change my ride much.
That said it doesn’t weigh 34 lbs. I would say it is probably 25 or a bit less.
I will be putting some new tires and wheels on at some point because as some have pointed out already, those are pretty cheap too.
Once that is done I think it is a good bike. I guess all things considered I could have spent 450 bucks on a slightly nicer bike but I have enjoyed working on it and riding it and it does look good in white.
Is it the greatest deal in cycling? No. Is it a good entry level bike with a few small upgrades? Yes
So here’s what I did. Bought some decent commuter pedals, new micro shift shifters, new jag wire cables, and a new saddle. Now with about 150 bucks worth of upgrades it is a bike I am proud of and enjoy riding.
It isn’t light but to be honest neither am I. At 200lbs a lb here or there on the bike isn’t going to change my ride much.
That said it doesn’t weigh 34 lbs. I would say it is probably 25 or a bit less.
I will be putting some new tires and wheels on at some point because as some have pointed out already, those are pretty cheap too.
Once that is done I think it is a good bike. I guess all things considered I could have spent 450 bucks on a slightly nicer bike but I have enjoyed working on it and riding it and it does look good in white.
Is it the greatest deal in cycling? No. Is it a good entry level bike with a few small upgrades? Yes
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6061 T6 and 7005 T6 are at least in the same ballpark for strength. The differences are, 6061 is more easily worked before heat treating, and 7005 doesn't require treating afterward. That makes the choice easy for low-end builders: use 6061 and don't heat treat it after welding.
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I have a Vilano Shadow and it is just fine. Does it have the best parts? NO. But the real question is what are you going to use the bike for? If you are a fairly causal rider then a Vilano may be right for you. Are you a college kid who needs something to get around town and campus? This bike is fine. Do you want to train for the Tour de France? Then no, you idiot this bike is not for you. The gears all these gearheads are poo-pooing are Shimano. Yes, older and not the shiniest and new but there are Shimano and that means they are reliable. You really have to ask yourself what you are using the bike for and go with that. Also, assess how likely your bike is to be stolen. I have had a Vilano for about 2 years now and have put well over 500 miles on it. Is it the best bike I have ever owned? No. but it is fine.
Also, ask the gear heads how many factories are actually making aluminum frames in China. Yeah. Not that many so very likely the baseline trek that goes for 1000 bucks has its frames built by the same factories. It just chaps my ass when the gearhead hipsters come out. Biking is supposed to FUN. And the community, for the most part, is welcoming. Maybe a Vilano is all this guy could afford right now. Instead of asking legit questions, most have just piled on whilst dazzling us all with their superior knowledge of frames and components.
Is the bike great? NO. is it rideable and serviceable, Yes.
Buy the bike and have it assembled at your local HIPPIE (not HIPSTER) bike shop. You will be fine and if you really get into biking then you may want to buy a different bike next year. If not, you have a bike you can ride on the weekends and have fun.
Ride on, brother.
Also, ask the gear heads how many factories are actually making aluminum frames in China. Yeah. Not that many so very likely the baseline trek that goes for 1000 bucks has its frames built by the same factories. It just chaps my ass when the gearhead hipsters come out. Biking is supposed to FUN. And the community, for the most part, is welcoming. Maybe a Vilano is all this guy could afford right now. Instead of asking legit questions, most have just piled on whilst dazzling us all with their superior knowledge of frames and components.
Is the bike great? NO. is it rideable and serviceable, Yes.
Buy the bike and have it assembled at your local HIPPIE (not HIPSTER) bike shop. You will be fine and if you really get into biking then you may want to buy a different bike next year. If not, you have a bike you can ride on the weekends and have fun.
Ride on, brother.
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I have a Vilano Shadow and it is just fine. Does it have the best parts? NO. But the real question is what are you going to use the bike for? If you are a fairly causal rider then a Vilano may be right for you. Are you a college kid who needs something to get around town and campus? This bike is fine. Do you want to train for the Tour de France? Then no, you idiot this bike is not for you. The gears all these gearheads are poo-pooing are Shimano. Yes, older and not the shiniest and new but there are Shimano and that means they are reliable. You really have to ask yourself what you are using the bike for and go with that. Also, assess how likely your bike is to be stolen. I have had a Vilano for about 2 years now and have put well over 500 miles on it. Is it the best bike I have ever owned? No. but it is fine.
Also, ask the gear heads how many factories are actually making aluminum frames in China. Yeah. Not that many so very likely the baseline trek that goes for 1000 bucks has its frames built by the same factories. It just chaps my ass when the gearhead hipsters come out. Biking is supposed to FUN. And the community, for the most part, is welcoming. Maybe a Vilano is all this guy could afford right now. Instead of asking legit questions, most have just piled on whilst dazzling us all with their superior knowledge of frames and components.
Is the bike great? NO. is it rideable and serviceable, Yes.
Buy the bike and have it assembled at your local HIPPIE (not HIPSTER) bike shop. You will be fine and if you really get into biking then you may want to buy a different bike next year. If not, you have a bike you can ride on the weekends and have fun.
Ride on, brother.
Also, ask the gear heads how many factories are actually making aluminum frames in China. Yeah. Not that many so very likely the baseline trek that goes for 1000 bucks has its frames built by the same factories. It just chaps my ass when the gearhead hipsters come out. Biking is supposed to FUN. And the community, for the most part, is welcoming. Maybe a Vilano is all this guy could afford right now. Instead of asking legit questions, most have just piled on whilst dazzling us all with their superior knowledge of frames and components.
Is the bike great? NO. is it rideable and serviceable, Yes.
Buy the bike and have it assembled at your local HIPPIE (not HIPSTER) bike shop. You will be fine and if you really get into biking then you may want to buy a different bike next year. If not, you have a bike you can ride on the weekends and have fun.
Ride on, brother.
Hope whatever he decided to do worked out for him.
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I know its a zombie thread but I clicked on the link anyway
Lawd have mercy --- 230 bucks and complete with sporty looking copies of a Hed 3 or Specialized tri spoke wheelset What a fool I was to spend 4k on my aero track wheels last year
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078J35LPV/ref=dp_prsubs_2
Lawd have mercy --- 230 bucks and complete with sporty looking copies of a Hed 3 or Specialized tri spoke wheelset What a fool I was to spend 4k on my aero track wheels last year
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078J35LPV/ref=dp_prsubs_2