Buy it or build it?
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Buy it or build it?
Hi gang. So I bought a low end fixie/singlespeed flipflop. Well, I'm already looking to trade up. Thinking of spending around 1k. Bianchi Pista, Cinelli Pistia, Pinarello Lungavita (a unicorn), new oldstock Jamis Sputnik... these are the types of things catching my eye.
However, the components aren't really super great except a piece here and there. So, do I buy a complete bike knowing I will be switching out parts, or just build it from scratch? I like to learn and building a bike will undoubtedly teach me lots, but the price of a frame-set seems high when considered as a percentage of the cost of a complete bike. I can ride while I build so time isn't a concern...obviously bike makers get a better deal on parts so I didn't really think I would be saving money, but I am just really surprised that it seems to make more $ sense to just buy complete and switch things out.
Any thoughts? Anyone have experience trying both routes? Good spots to find fair deals on frame-sets? Frame-sets I should be looking at?
Thanks!
However, the components aren't really super great except a piece here and there. So, do I buy a complete bike knowing I will be switching out parts, or just build it from scratch? I like to learn and building a bike will undoubtedly teach me lots, but the price of a frame-set seems high when considered as a percentage of the cost of a complete bike. I can ride while I build so time isn't a concern...obviously bike makers get a better deal on parts so I didn't really think I would be saving money, but I am just really surprised that it seems to make more $ sense to just buy complete and switch things out.
Any thoughts? Anyone have experience trying both routes? Good spots to find fair deals on frame-sets? Frame-sets I should be looking at?
Thanks!
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Hi gang. So I bought a low end fixie/singlespeed flipflop. Well, I'm already looking to trade up. Thinking of spending around 1k. Bianchi Pista, Cinelli Pistia, Pinarello Lungavita (a unicorn), new oldstock Jamis Sputnik... these are the types of things catching my eye.
However, the components aren't really super great except a piece here and there. So, do I buy a complete bike knowing I will be switching out parts, or just build it from scratch? I like to learn and building a bike will undoubtedly teach me lots, but the price of a frame-set seems high when considered as a percentage of the cost of a complete bike. I can ride while I build so time isn't a concern...obviously bike makers get a better deal on parts so I didn't really think I would be saving money, but I am just really surprised that it seems to make more $ sense to just buy complete and switch things out.
Any thoughts? Anyone have experience trying both routes? Good spots to find fair deals on frame-sets? Frame-sets I should be looking at?
Thanks!
However, the components aren't really super great except a piece here and there. So, do I buy a complete bike knowing I will be switching out parts, or just build it from scratch? I like to learn and building a bike will undoubtedly teach me lots, but the price of a frame-set seems high when considered as a percentage of the cost of a complete bike. I can ride while I build so time isn't a concern...obviously bike makers get a better deal on parts so I didn't really think I would be saving money, but I am just really surprised that it seems to make more $ sense to just buy complete and switch things out.
Any thoughts? Anyone have experience trying both routes? Good spots to find fair deals on frame-sets? Frame-sets I should be looking at?
Thanks!
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Dura-ace hubs, H+Son rims, Omnium crankset, nitto cockpit bikes pop up fairly often locally and could be negotiated on in price. I'm sure you could find your dream frame while also using second hand quality parts to make a bike that's $1000 for less than $1000. Not to mention a nice fixie bike carries the "hipster" tax and if presented nice will sell for high dollar!
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This is very subjective. If you're careful and buy second hand quality items you can save your $$ but add value to the bike. Maybe finding a nice second hand frame for $200-300 and buying a nice fixie bike locally to swap parts on.
Dura-ace hubs, H+Son rims, Omnium crankset, nitto cockpit bikes pop up fairly often locally and could be negotiated on in price. I'm sure you could find your dream frame while also using second hand quality parts to make a bike that's $1000 for less than $1000. Not to mention a nice fixie bike carries the "hipster" tax and if presented nice will sell for high dollar!
Dura-ace hubs, H+Son rims, Omnium crankset, nitto cockpit bikes pop up fairly often locally and could be negotiated on in price. I'm sure you could find your dream frame while also using second hand quality parts to make a bike that's $1000 for less than $1000. Not to mention a nice fixie bike carries the "hipster" tax and if presented nice will sell for high dollar!
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I'm not a Wabi owner but I've read that their wheels are decent. Maybe Wabi is where you want to go.
If you do end up doing a build, check out Velomine.com for deals.
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You won't be able to build a bike better than a wabi for the price of a wabi, but a wabi is just a decent frame with a bunch of inexpensive yet functional parts. If you get one of those frames you mention, a thousand dollar budget doesn't leave room for a lot of bling.
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Sputnik if you can find the 631 version. Great package, and when bought used the value is high. I have said it before and will do so again: Spicer cycles are a good value if weight is not a huge concern.
Otherwise, try to find the best overall package based on usage. I would look at geometry you like (track, relaxed, etc), then pick frame that can fit at least 28c if not larger. As previously stated, frame up builds will never have the value that a premade bike has.
Pick something and ride it! Then let us know.
Otherwise, try to find the best overall package based on usage. I would look at geometry you like (track, relaxed, etc), then pick frame that can fit at least 28c if not larger. As previously stated, frame up builds will never have the value that a premade bike has.
Pick something and ride it! Then let us know.
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I would pretty much for myself always say build from frame up as all my bikes have been built that way. I don't do well with stock it typically is not what I want and what will work well for me. However when building from a frame up you will end up spending more because you are buying one at a time rather than 1k+ at a time so you won't get a discount of scale. What that means is your budget is not going to take you as far as it might on a complete bike.
However the idea of buying a stock bike to swap components is an expensive endeavor unless you can make some money back on what you take off. My Surly Disc Trucker ended up getting less and less stock as time grew on and that is when I said ok time to get a different frame and build a new bike and sell this one. I clearly wanted something more custom and new more or less what I wanted at the time and found Co-Motion who built my frame and then spec'd it how I wanted it. Though honestly wish I had done that with 2020 me and not 2014 me as my wants have changed riding so many other bikes and learning more about my riding and my needs and what is out there but I still love the bike and it has worked out wonderfully.
However the idea of buying a stock bike to swap components is an expensive endeavor unless you can make some money back on what you take off. My Surly Disc Trucker ended up getting less and less stock as time grew on and that is when I said ok time to get a different frame and build a new bike and sell this one. I clearly wanted something more custom and new more or less what I wanted at the time and found Co-Motion who built my frame and then spec'd it how I wanted it. Though honestly wish I had done that with 2020 me and not 2014 me as my wants have changed riding so many other bikes and learning more about my riding and my needs and what is out there but I still love the bike and it has worked out wonderfully.
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I saw I really good deal on new old stock so went ahead and bought a Pinarello Lungavita which should last me a while, swap out parts as needed on the way.
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I’m actually dying to get my hands on a Wabi special. But I am so happy with my Iro that I can’t really justify the purchase.
Maybe just the frame-set? I dunno. It’s a pickle...
Maybe just the frame-set? I dunno. It’s a pickle...
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I bought 3 new bike in the last 2 years. Just bought a used Medici Pro Strada and trying to decide if I want to replace some missing original parts, or convert it to a single speed.
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"Buy it or build it?" If you have to ask, then just buy it.
My personal preference has generally been buy, ride, learn, modify.
I once built a complete bike from parts, exactly as I thought I wanted it. I then rode it, learned, and modified it anyway.
My personal preference has generally been buy, ride, learn, modify.
I once built a complete bike from parts, exactly as I thought I wanted it. I then rode it, learned, and modified it anyway.
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I also decided to restore the Pro Strada since it's just missing a few Campy parts. I'll use Cinelli to replace the quill stem and saddle. Anyone selling the original Medici stem and saddle will want more than I'm willing to spend.
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We deserve it. We’ve been good under lockdown and deserve it!
And the funny thing is, I was looking to blow a bunch of money on a fixed gear freestyle build to keep myself busy while locked down.
The Wabi frame would probably be less than the build and the complete would probably not be much more.
But then I would still need a quarantine project...
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Let’s do it lol!
We deserve it. We’ve been good under lockdown and deserve it!
And the funny thing is, I was looking to blow a bunch of money on a fixed gear freestyle build to keep myself busy while locked down.
The Wabi frame would probably be less than the build and the complete would probably not be much more.
But then I would still need a quarantine project...
We deserve it. We’ve been good under lockdown and deserve it!
And the funny thing is, I was looking to blow a bunch of money on a fixed gear freestyle build to keep myself busy while locked down.
The Wabi frame would probably be less than the build and the complete would probably not be much more.
But then I would still need a quarantine project...
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But would still have to be in the anthracite gray and topaz blue, right?
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LOL...how could you not? Everything in one swoop. And should there be any issues, it all goes back to them. Their customer service is supposed to be bar none. Richard actually invited me to take the few hours drive to Denver to see the showroom in person once the quarantine is lifted. Gonna be like a kid in a candy store.
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LOL...how could you not? Everything in one swoop. And should there be any issues, it all goes back to them. Their customer service is supposed to be bar none. Richard actually invited me to take the few hours drive to Denver to see the showroom in person once the quarantine is lifted. Gonna be like a kid in a candy store.
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If not, I'll still gladly make the 5 hour drive!