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Old 02-09-21, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Rage View Post
Since grade school, I have had over ten bikes stolen from me. Took a long time but I have learned to never let my good bikes out of my sight lol.

I currently have three bikes that are set up as commuters and, while I am fond of all of them, it wouldn’t break my heart if anything
happened to them.
How do you ride to work and keep the other two bikes in sight?

Bike security is a matter of situational awareness and threat assessment. Depending on the situation, I've slept nearby with the bike outside the tent (and out of sight) many times; gone into a diner and left the bike parked outside, only sometimes in sight; and watched two bikes while the other rider went into a grocery store.

If you think you need two locks, get two different kinds of locks. Park your bike in a highly visible area and lock it to something secure (not a parking meter a thief can lift the bike and lock over, or a signpost that can be picked up!). And leave the bike there the minimum time you must.
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Old 02-09-21, 08:09 AM
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Find a way to take it to a Mad Max level. Sure you'll be out a bike, but there will be one less bike thief on the street.

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Old 02-09-21, 08:24 AM
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This method appears to be pretty safe. (Not staged. I actually saw this on a ride home from work once)


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Old 02-09-21, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by pdlamb View Post
Bike security is a matter of situational awareness and threat assessment.
We have a winner.

Hate to break it to some of you, but there isn't a thief lurking behind every light pole and pinus contorta.
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Old 02-09-21, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
there isn't a thief lurking behind every light pole and pinus contorta.
That's would; be a sad way to live.
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Old 02-09-21, 12:20 PM
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Bike Lock

My lock is 6'4" in length and called "Steve".
Thread him through the frame and around a post and NOBODY is going to mess with my bike.
I do have a coffee shop option call "Matt", but nowhere near as formidable.

Else, the bike does not get left lying around.

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Old 02-09-21, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kabuki12 View Post
I don’t lock my bike(s) because I don’t have to leave them unattended...I ride my bike for recreation and when I am done I put it away.
A surprising % of bike thefts are from sheds, garages and balconies. Yeah, I lock my bikes @ home.
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Old 02-09-21, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by tcs View Post
I'd look for a pair of locks that ... used different design lock cores to make picking a royal pain in the %$!*.
Best available information is that lock picking has been and remains a very rare avenue of bike theft. Hopefully, that will remain the case despite those Youtubers promoting this with 'how to' tutorials.
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Old 02-09-21, 02:24 PM
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Get these guys, take them for a "run-behind" everyday and in nine months they'll protect your bike and you.
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Old 02-09-21, 03:46 PM
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I'd go with a G43X and I wouldn't need a second. Oh, wait. Locks? I thought you said Glocks. Never mind.
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Old 02-09-21, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Rage View Post
I had to use two locks on my commuter for many years. It sucked.
But there really isn’t much choice in NYC. Adopted the two lock method after losing multiple bikes to bike thieves.
Might still be doing it if I had gainful employment but I do not. So, I guess that’s like the one plus to being out of work during lockdown.
At one place I worked we were told not bring our bicycles inside the building... if you wanted to have a bicycle after the work day you would put your bicycle inside the building... and there were various places that people would stash their bicycles inside the building and the guards were generally looking the other way...

It seemed rather odd since bicycle space was never an issue. On a good day maybe 8 to 12 would ride.
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Old 02-09-21, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
Some go around the lock.

I realize this is a stock image of a random bike somewhere but wondering why the owner didn't pass the lock through the rear wheel. Or, since the post is about two locks, one for the rear wheel to frame to immovable object and the other for the front wheel to frame and ideally, to immovable object. If the bike has quick release skewers then removing and bringing the front wheel might be OK for a place that won't allow the full bike inside.
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Old 02-09-21, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Aroyobob View Post
I realize this is a stock image of a random bike somewhere but wondering why the owner didn't pass the lock through the rear wheel. Or, since the post is about two locks, one for the rear wheel to frame to immovable object and the other for the front wheel to frame and ideally, to immovable object. If the bike has quick release skewers then removing and bringing the front wheel might be OK for a place that won't allow the full bike inside.
If 2 are good then N+1000 will be better


And if they can't steal it they might just destroy it.
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Old 02-09-21, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
Some go around the lock.

The thief left the frame, he could've cut the top tube in seconds with a hacksaw and taken the entire bike. The rear brake cable could be difficult though, but it's only 1 allen wrench apart.
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Old 02-10-21, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Reynolds View Post
The thief left the frame, he could've cut the top tube in seconds with a hacksaw and taken the entire bike. The rear brake cable could be difficult though, but it's only 1 allen wrench apart.
If they had a hacksaw they could cut the lock
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Old 02-10-21, 08:22 AM
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The OP fails to give details like: where/what location, or duration (especially if overnight). So, many answers cannot apply.

My commute is onto a large Gov't installation that is quite safe (controlled entry points, guards, patrols, etc.) relative to a normal center of town or city. I still leave (permanently) a heavy chain and key lock at the bike rack outside of my building. It's been there for five years now. In my environment, this is likely overkill. I have seen bikes left unlocked and untouched there during work.
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Old 02-10-21, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
If they had a hacksaw they could cut the lock
I don't know what lock was that, but if it was hardened he'd have a hard time cutting it with a hacksaw.
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Old 02-10-21, 09:09 AM
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Again, it sucks to have to lock your bike up at all. But you gotta do what you gotta do.
If you’re lucky enough, like Phil, to work somewhere it’s pretty safe to leave your bike then you are one lucky son of a gun.
But if you’re like me and prefer commuting to work and pretty much everywhere else in New York City by bicycle, you had better reconcile yourself to locking up your bike. Or be okay with your bike potentially not being there when you get back.
There’s no way in heck an unlocked bike in NYC is still going to be there if you leave it lying around unattended.

Jersey ain’t so great either btw. Someone lifted a bike from me in Kearny NJ, where people insist to me it’s ok to leave your doors and windows unlocked.

Just try to gauge the threat level as accurately as possible and react accordingly.
In this case, OP asked which two locks he should buy so I am assuming he feels he needs that level of protection.
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Old 02-10-21, 09:14 AM
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I don't know what lock was that, but if it was hardened he'd have a hard time cutting it with a hacksaw.
OK... we need more power.

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Old 02-10-21, 10:23 AM
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There’s a YouTube video where Hal from Bicycle Habitat (great guy and mechanic) here in NYC takes an angle grinder to a bike lock. Think it was the same one I got, the Kryptonite NY forgetaboutit or whatever. He cuts right through it, no problem at all. Doesn’t take more’n a few minutes.
Gotta hope, tho, that the presence of passerby will deter that type of move.
But that also depends on where you are. Most places in NYC, most people won’t bat an eyelash.
Think only one person asked him what he was up to as he was trying to cut locks offa bikes on a busy Manhattan street.

Maybe take a look at that video, now I think about it.
Search “Hal Ruzal” on YouTube, if interested.
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Old 02-10-21, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil_gretz View Post
The OP fails to give details like: where/what location, or duration (especially if overnight). So, many answers cannot apply.

My commute is onto a large Gov't installation that is quite safe (controlled entry points, guards, patrols, etc.) relative to a normal center of town or city. I still leave (permanently) a heavy chain and key lock at the bike rack outside of my building. It's been there for five years now. In my environment, this is likely overkill. I have seen bikes left unlocked and untouched there during work.
I had someone at a military base get their bike stolen. Never assume anything. Granted his was not locked up at all but still guards and controlled entry points and all of that.
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Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
Some go around the lock.

I see one huge mistake here - the rear wheel wasn't threaded by the lock inside the wheel rim and it easily could have been. Not saying the bike can't be stripped anyway but at least you would have your wheel(s). This usually happens if the bike is left someplace outside for days on end. And if you are locking at all, you always need two locks if you value your front wheel. Also, the above happens if you leave the bike overnight or some long time. In some places, even short time may be too long but in such a place, you need to find out how other people do it, or not lock bike there at all.

Fancy bikes should never be left unattended, only commuters should ponder how to lock and that means double locking always (both wheels locked to frame and best both lock to a rail if space permits), if you lock at all.
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Originally Posted by vane171 View Post
I see one huge mistake here - the rear wheel wasn't threaded by the lock inside the wheel rim and it easily could have been. Not saying the bike can't be stripped anyway but at least you would have your wheel(s). This usually happens if the bike is left someplace outside for days on end. And if you are locking at all, you always need two locks if you value your front wheel. Also, the above happens if you leave the bike overnight or some long time. In some places, even short time may be too long but in such a place, you need to find out how other people do it, or not lock bike there at all.

Fancy bikes should never be left unattended, only commuters should ponder how to lock and that means double locking always (both wheels locked to frame and best both lock to a rail if space permits), if you lock at all.
Yes, some people are not very good at using a cable lock correctly.

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Originally Posted by GlennR View Post
If they had a hacksaw they could cut the lock
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I don't know what lock was that, but if it was hardened he'd have a hard time cutting it with a hacksaw.
GlennR is correct. The lock in question could easily be cut with a hacksaw, though it would take a few minutes.

A very large bolt cutter, operated by a relatively strong person, could snap it in a few seconds.

I'm not a bike thief, but I've had cause to do both with some very strong u-bolt locks like the one pictured.
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
GlennR is correct. The lock in question could easily be cut with a hacksaw, though it would take a few minutes.

A very large bolt cutter, operated by a relatively strong person, could snap it in a few seconds.

I'm not a bike thief, but I've had cause to do both with some very strong u-bolt locks like the one pictured.
Easier yet would be using a long - like 5'- pipe as a lever.
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