Two Puch Questions
01-06-19, 03:45 PM
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Two Puch Questions
I've got two questions about an old Puch.
1.
What is this mechanism? What is its purpose?
2.
Why are there three holes in the front wheel drop outs? I can see the need for one or two mount points (racks and fenders/mud guards), but this bike has three. And why is one rectangular shaped?
Here is a pic of the bike for reference:
1.
What is this mechanism? What is its purpose?
2.
Why are there three holes in the front wheel drop outs? I can see the need for one or two mount points (racks and fenders/mud guards), but this bike has three. And why is one rectangular shaped?
Here is a pic of the bike for reference:
01-06-19, 03:51 PM
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Great pics. The brake quick release brake is to open up your center pull brakes so you can get the wheels out. I have no idea what that rectangular hole on the drop out is for.
01-06-19, 04:02 PM
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The rectangular hole in the dropout is likely for a wheel retaining washer of some sort
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01-06-19, 04:05 PM
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The brake quick release appears to need restoration. The flange on the barrel is supposed to engage the edge of the thin cam plate, but often bends away from the barrel and thus can't work. A flat along the length of the barrel is supposed to face the plate. Very common failure btw.
The rectangular hole in the dropouts might serve as a bungee anchor point for handlebar bags that require a tether.
EDIT: Probably an axle retainer slot as just mentioned above.
The rectangular hole in the dropouts might serve as a bungee anchor point for handlebar bags that require a tether.
EDIT: Probably an axle retainer slot as just mentioned above.
01-06-19, 05:24 PM
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I like the bungee cord anchor point hypothesis. Not saying it’s correct, I just like it.
01-06-19, 05:40 PM
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Yes, most likely that bike originally had nutted axles, with a washer that had a tab that fit into that hole.
01-06-19, 06:23 PM
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Another failure mode is the nut holding the whole thing together gets backed off a bit the resulting slop makes the ridge of the adjustable barrel fall off the edge of the cam it's supposed to riding on. Easy fix, in that case.
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01-06-19, 09:03 PM
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01-07-19, 02:18 AM
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Poster number 2 is correct. Astro Damiler was their high end stuff. I bought 2 French bikes brand new & admired them back then. Bianchi bought out Puch in the very late, 1980's.
01-07-19, 11:26 AM
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The hole is an attempt to prevent lawsuits brought by those who do not understand how to use QRs. Later, those annoying tabs on forks would serve the same purpose.
01-07-19, 12:03 PM
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Judging by what Google presents, the Cavalier was available both in the US and in England. The "third hole" seems to have been a US market thing. So, what were the Austrians thinking? English cyclists are smarter, or: American cyclists have better lawyers?
01-07-19, 03:15 PM
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Interesting. I've never seen the rectangular hole for retain washers in that position before (not saying it isn't possible, just that I've never seen it). Normally the hole is aligned with the center-line of the fork arm.
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The brake quick release appears to need restoration. The flange on the barrel is supposed to engage the edge of the thin cam plate, but often bends away from the barrel and thus can't work. A flat along the length of the barrel is supposed to face the plate. Very common failure btw.
The rectangular hole in the dropouts might serve as a bungee anchor point for handlebar bags that require a tether.
EDIT: Probably an axle retainer slot as just mentioned above.
The rectangular hole in the dropouts might serve as a bungee anchor point for handlebar bags that require a tether.
EDIT: Probably an axle retainer slot as just mentioned above.
01-07-19, 03:20 PM
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in the 50's I had a 3 speed I bought from Sears , they had them made in Austria,, By AD-Puch.. but badged JC Higgins. Then..
01-08-19, 08:31 PM
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sort of correct. Austro Daimler was the higher end stuff for primarily the US market. There were still very high end Puch bikes in Europe. This is Klaus Peter Thaler’s 1982 team bike, made in the Graz Austria factory and confirmed by him to be one of two bikes ridden by him that year, including in the TdF. It is serial number 001.
01-10-19, 05:05 AM
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It looks like the "T" shaped support for the Pletscher rack was mistakenly bolted to the quick release cable stop in such a way as to render it incapable of working properly. The "T"support is supposed to be attached to the rear brake mounting bolt.
01-10-19, 09:24 AM
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Good point. On Weinmann centerpull brake systems I prefer the foolproof cable tension releases built into the brake levers.
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01-14-19, 05:00 PM
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+1. I also prefer the quick release on the lever, as well. One can actually operate them, albeit clumsily, while riding. If your wheel starts to rub during a ride,you have some recourse. I also prefer the adjusting ferrules that are attached to the brake lever for the same reason. The grey plastic OEM Weinmann adjusters are inferior to the red anodized aluminum Dia Compe versions.
