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Old 09-08-19, 10:42 AM
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Tool to hold bbt-22 in place on spindle

Has anyone seen a tool to hold a BBT-22 (Bottom Bracket Cup Remover Tool) in place? Mine keeps wanting to torque off. Maybe something that threads into the end of the spindle and clamps the BBT-22 snug against the BB?

I guess I could just get a threaded rod, some wide washers and a couple nuts?

https://www.parktool.com/product/bot...et-tool-bbt-22
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An M8x1.0 bolt 40 or 50 mm long works. Depending on the bolt's length you may need a stack of washers to fill in the excess as Bill shows above.

Note the bolt must be threaded M8x1.0 mm, not the more common M8x1.25 mm.
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Originally Posted by HillRider
An M8x1.0 bolt 40 or 50 mm long works. Depending on the bolt's length you may need a stack of washers to fill in the excess as Bill shows above.

Note the bolt must be threaded M8x1.0 mm, not the more common M8x1.25 mm.
I have a couple different length bolts and vary the washer stack to cover the different spindle lengths.
This is my version to hold a fixed cup wrench.


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Thanks y'all, great info and pictures. Hardware store tomorrow.
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I use a bar clamp across tool, BB and all. Works great to hold the tool in the splines and no fiddling to get the right stack of washers. It is also useful for clamping other stuff. Cheap at Harbor Freight.
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I think I got it. Thanks again you all.

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Pedros makes a tool for that.

https://pedros.com/products/tools/pe...socket-holder/

It works on both square taper with 8mm threads and ISIS which has 15mm threads. I use one and it works.
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Originally Posted by dsbrantjr
I use a bar clamp across tool, BB and all. Works great to hold the tool in the splines and no fiddling to get the right stack of washers. It is also useful for clamping other stuff. Cheap at Harbor Freight.
So as the cup turns, it tightens against the clamp?
Like a QR skewer/cassette removal?
How much "fiddling to get the right stack of washers" do you think it takes?

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Originally Posted by dsbrantjr
I use a bar clamp across tool, BB and all. Works great to hold the tool in the splines and no fiddling to get the right stack of washers. It is also useful for clamping other stuff. Cheap at Harbor Freight.
With the washers/bolt you can use a socket for those tough ones.
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Yeah, that's what I don't like about the BBT-22. Why did they make it so tall? Shimano's own tool for the cartridge, the TL-UN74, is much shorter and you can use the bottom bracket's own bolt or nut to hold the tool in place.
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Maybe rebuild it with all inbound instead of outbound spokes? Just a wag.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Yeah, that's what I don't like about the BBT-22. Why did they make it so tall? Shimano's own tool for the cartridge, the TL-UN74, is much shorter and you can use the bottom bracket's own bolt or nut to hold the tool in place.
I have the TL-UN72 (did you mean 72 or is there a 74?) and it won't fit over the "collar" that some UN-26 BB's have on the DS, so I had to buy the longer Park tool for those.
The Park tool has a smaller hole in the end, so the bolt trick is a little less sloppy with it.
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Originally Posted by Jon T
Maybe rebuild it with all inbound instead of outbound spokes? Just a wag.
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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
I have the TL-UN72 (did you mean 72 or is there a 74?) and it won't fit over the "collar" that some UN-26 BB's have on the DS, so I had to buy the longer Park tool for those.
Mine is a TL-UN74. I haven't had any problems with it, but I'm not sure that I've tried it with a UN-26 cartridge. It works with UN-51 and some other third party cartridges I've tried.



Looking at pictures of the TL-UN72, I really don't see much difference from my TL-UN74.
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Mine is a TL-UN74. I haven't had any problems with it, but I'm not sure that I've tried it with a UN-26 cartridge. It works with UN-51 and some other third party cartridges I've tried.

Looking at pictures of the TL-UN72, I really don't see much difference from my TL-UN74.
It appears the 72 has thicker walls.(eyeballing your pic vs the 72 in my hand)
My hole measures .79"
EDIT- maybe this pic from the business end may show different thickness?

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Originally Posted by Bill Kapaun
It appears the 72 has thicker walls.(eyeballing your pic vs the 72 in my hand)
My hole measures .79"
That could be it. The TL-UN74 measures 0.95" ID, same as the Park BBT-22.
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Originally Posted by dsbrantjr
I use a bar clamp across tool, BB and all. Works great to hold the tool in the splines and no fiddling to get the right stack of washers. It is also useful for clamping other stuff. Cheap at Harbor Freight.
Same! Except I got mine at Menards. Works a treat.
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Sometimes when it's a *****, i'll just lay the bike down on the ground so there's support on the other side of the BB, force pressure downward on the tool, turn, loosens every time.
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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
Pedros makes a tool for that.

https://pedros.com/products/tools/pe...socket-holder/

It works on both square taper with 8mm threads and ISIS which has 15mm threads. I use one and it works.
Looks like Pedro's has just come out with Version II of that tool:

https://pedros.com/products/tools/pe...ket-holder-ii/
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Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart
Pedros makes a tool for that.

https://pedros.com/products/tools/pe...socket-holder/

It works on both square taper with 8mm threads and ISIS which has 15mm threads. I use one and it works.
The cheap M8 bolt and washer stack works on square taper spindles. ISIS and Hollowtech I spindles are hollow and a quick release skewer can be used to clamp the removal tool in place so no need for a specific tool. Also, IIRC, some of the ISIS spindles were 14 mm ID so the Pedros tool won't work with them.
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