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Old 09-05-10, 09:00 PM
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Compact crank and bottom bracket options.

Hi Everyone:

I am playing with the idea of going to a compact crank from a standard double 53/39 Ultegra on my 2002 Lemond Buenos Aries. I believe the crank length right now is 175mm. It is a 9 speed running an Ultegra 12/27. The bike is full Ultegra with a 105 bb.

The bottom bracket is currently a Shimano BB-5500 which is 109.5mm and a shell width of 68mm.

I have been looking at the Shimano FC-R700 or possibly at Sram Force or maybe even a Red. I guess my concern is going from a 9 speed to 10 speed as I can not find any 9 speed compact crank options. I am not even sure which bb I would get if I went the Sram route. Have read that the FC-R700 will work, but it requires a different bb.

I guess I am looking for opinions and perhaps advise from anyone else who has done this switch.

Thanks in advance for your replies.

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change the chainrings, keep everything else equal.
it's a 130BCD, get 50t 130BCD rings from FSA, and whatever ring you want for the inner one.
sourcing compact cranksets plus all accessories is too much money.
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Originally Posted by Pelotoner
I have been looking at the Shimano FC-R700 or possibly at Sram Force or maybe even a Red. I guess my concern is going from a 9 speed to 10 speed as I can not find any 9 speed compact crank options.
10sp cranks work with 9sp as well.


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change the chainrings, keep everything else equal.
it's a 130BCD, get 50t 130BCD rings from FSA, and whatever ring you want for the inner one.
That won't help the OP if he wants a smaller inner ring. 130BCD only goes down to 38T, most compacts are 34T or 36T.
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As umd says, you can run a 10spd compact with your 9 speed drive train. You are going to need a new BB but they are cheap. The length of your existing crank is stamped on the inside of the arm near the pedal.
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Thanks for the input. I started to check around and can see where I can get the 50, but the lowest FSA 130 I am seeing so far is 39.

All the newer model BB's do not give dimensions so I am concerned that I will not be able to find one that will fit. is 68mm and 109.5 a standard size for a bb?
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English bottom brackets are pretty much standard. Italian BBs are less common. FSA and some others make a 38, but they aren't very common and you aren't going to find any smaller than that, it just isn't physically possibly.
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checked and they are 175's so thanks for telling me where to look, sometimes in my old age I miss these things.

as for the bb, it looks like a lot of them are 68mm to 72mm with a spacer so the 68mm english is the correct size. None of the new ones show the 109.5mm width, is this standard for the double cranks?

Thanks again everyone.
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A lot of the newer cranks use external bearings, so there is no spindle width to deal with.
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ok that answers that question... reading I was unable to find that answer anywhere, but it makes sense and I am sure you could tell I was thinking it... just wanted to make sure before I drop cash on parts. Thanks again.
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The FC-R700 could very well come with a bottom bracket - when I got one when Jenson was dumping them a few months ago it came with an Ultegra 6600 bottom bracket.
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