The Armstrong Effect
07-17-09, 03:35 AM
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Just read that and posted about it.
Sigh.
Sigh.
07-17-09, 06:00 AM
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Well, addressing your puzzlement, it's because they think he cheated. They take it personally because they feel he got over on them, outsmarted them.
One thing you must admit, winning 7 straight tdf is an outrageous accomplishment, so it's bound to raise suspicion. I can understand that. But I feel that hey, if you can't find anything and if you can't prove anything then you need to leave the man the F alone and enjoy history.
But noooooooo, they can't stand the thought of an American kicking their ass in "their" sport. It's just too bitter a pill for them to swallow. F 'em!!
One thing you must admit, winning 7 straight tdf is an outrageous accomplishment, so it's bound to raise suspicion. I can understand that. But I feel that hey, if you can't find anything and if you can't prove anything then you need to leave the man the F alone and enjoy history.
But noooooooo, they can't stand the thought of an American kicking their ass in "their" sport. It's just too bitter a pill for them to swallow. F 'em!!
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What they keep forgetting is the man is a Genetic freak its 25% more athlete then every other top athlete thats cheating... so clearly he MUST be cheating..
theres natural talent and then there is a genetic advantage.. he has both.. End of story
theres natural talent and then there is a genetic advantage.. he has both.. End of story
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So what are they going to say now? He comes back and has been tested relentlessly. Yet he's still is at the front after a 3 year layoff. Couldn't find drugs then ... can't find them now ... and he remains at the front. Maybe he's just that freakin' good! His performance has immensely impressed me and I think it would be really difficult to dope since he know's he'll be under the microscope. Way to go Lance!
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Wow. I'm surprised the anti-Lance pundits haven't jumped on this like a swarm of flies on a steaming pile of dog c**p.
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Moving this to Professional Cycling so they can have at it there
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Don't worry, they'll be here . . . . with there cynical & desperate points of view.
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I think what a lot of people miss is that drugs often just stimulate what can occur in nature. For example, there are some people who are naturally huge, or if you are a scrawny 90 lb weakling, you can get there with steroids. This does not change the fact that some people are very muscular.
Lance, as has been said, is a genetic rarity. If you can't catch him at drugs, instead of assuming he is cheating, you might just assume he is a martian...
Besides, I have been told many, many times, everything is better in Texas. Perhaps this is the reason.
The truth is, life is not fair, Lance won the genetic lottery. But, he nearly died from cancer too and that of course says there is a higher possibility of cancer in a future, so he didn't do THAT well genetically, did he?
Lance, as has been said, is a genetic rarity. If you can't catch him at drugs, instead of assuming he is cheating, you might just assume he is a martian...
Besides, I have been told many, many times, everything is better in Texas. Perhaps this is the reason.
The truth is, life is not fair, Lance won the genetic lottery. But, he nearly died from cancer too and that of course says there is a higher possibility of cancer in a future, so he didn't do THAT well genetically, did he?
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07-18-09, 03:04 PM
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I don't think the Tour Organizers hate him nearly as much as they would have some of their customers believe. He's awesome for their businesses, both the tour and the paper. Like you pointed out he draws huge interest to the sport. I had a friend that suggested, long before he announced his return, to keep an eye out for his return. He was basing that prediction on looking at nothing but deminished views of the tour over the previous three years. Last year ASO would have actually and seriously considered selling it off. They aren't talking that way now.
They're apparent hate is nothing more than a ruse to help keep the conspiracy whirling and the papers flowing off the back of trucks. I will not be surprised when in two to three years, Lance owns part of the Tour.
I don't think the Tour Organizers hate him nearly as much as they would have some of their customers believe. He's awesome for their businesses, both the tour and the paper. Like you pointed out he draws huge interest to the sport. I had a friend that suggested, long before he announced his return, to keep an eye out for his return. He was basing that prediction on looking at nothing but deminished views of the tour over the previous three years. Last year ASO would have actually and seriously considered selling it off. They aren't talking that way now.
They're apparent hate is nothing more than a ruse to help keep the conspiracy whirling and the papers flowing off the back of trucks. I will not be surprised when in two to three years, Lance owns part of the Tour.
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Perhaps the Tour people resent how popular Lance is, in some respects he is bigger than the Tour, hence the problem. When I raced, it was common to run into USCF officials that appeared to believe that we bike racers were racing so they could do their "Official thing"....not that they were for us. Maybe the Tour promoters have the same view.
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The reason Armstrong is unpopular among many cycling fans outside the US is quite simple imo. People like a winner, but they dislike someone who wins all the time. If Armstrong had lost one or two of the seven Tours, maybe because of bad luck or whatever, I'm pretty sure people would be cheering for him more in his comeback this year.
07-19-09, 03:42 AM
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Doesn't matter who's booing on the side lines. We know ASO is cheering his decision to return!
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