The ultimate in Gugifacazione ("this one goes to eleven")
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Does that black thingy bolted to the rearmost (conventional position) derailleur hanger serve as a chain rest? Can you shift the chain onto it like you would a Nivex dropout?
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07-21-20, 11:38 PM
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I was always intrigued by the Suntour S1 derailleur. I saw one one a commuter bikes about 20 years ago and wondered at its performance. The design, I think, was based on an old Nivex design. This Chain stay mounting would allow for a more enclosed chain guard than the usual derailleur set up. Did the shifting behave as well as normal Suntour shifting?
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Yes, the black ear-shaped doodah is a chain rest. It is part of the original design (it came with the derailleur) and mounts to the derailleur mount on a standard forged dropout. But you cannot shift onto it; you have to put the chain on it manually before removing the wheel.
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I was always intrigued by the Suntour S1 derailleur. I saw one one a commuter bikes about 20 years ago and wondered at its performance. The design, I think, was based on an old Nivex design. This Chain stay mounting would allow for a more enclosed chain guard than the usual derailleur set up. Did the shifting behave as well as normal Suntour shifting?
The shifting is good, but not excellent. It doesn't downshift as quickly as you would want. A couple times it has failed to downshift when I'm approaching a steep hill, and once you start climbing it's a lot harder to downshift. I'm not sure whether this is thee fault of the chain and/or cassette, or it may be due to the derailleur. I suspect the cam indexing on the derailleur prevents the derailleur from overshifting-- and a little overshifting is nice for getting any derailleur to downshift.
Aside from that, the derailleur is not quiet.
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07-22-20, 03:59 PM
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In an ideal world, you would have a barrel adjuster for each side of the brake. Neither the Suntour nor the Tektro versions offer that feature, though. So if I had access to a machine shop, I would make my own. Come to think of it, I did run an M6x1.0 tap through the Tektro one I have on the front so there's a barrel adjuster there, and did something similar with the rear one. So my photo probably doesn't show it exactly as it came.
Edit: you've essentially got that on the rear.
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I keep seeing "this one goes to eleven". I had to look at my guitar amps to see how high they go. The solid states - 10. But the tube amps (and synthesized tube amp) all go to 12. (Well the grand dad only is labeled to 11 but goes another full amount to "MAX" And at 40 watts and 3 10" speakers, yeah, a full 12 in anybody's book.)
And in line with C & V, the smallest amp is a custom build, hand wired, tube and Weber AlNiCo speakers. Middle amp is a Roland Blues Cube, solid state with tube characteristics, Grand dad a Victorilux. Hand-built classic though not a copy of anything. A little like a Bassman. (And a chance find. Last tube amp at a local music store when the owner retired. Played through it into the empty showroom and it was wow! Looked it up that evening, Nope, I'll never see that price again.)
Blue harmonica, my other love. Goes back nearly as far. I've recently gotten into n+10.
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And in line with C & V, the smallest amp is a custom build, hand wired, tube and Weber AlNiCo speakers. Middle amp is a Roland Blues Cube, solid state with tube characteristics, Grand dad a Victorilux. Hand-built classic though not a copy of anything. A little like a Bassman. (And a chance find. Last tube amp at a local music store when the owner retired. Played through it into the empty showroom and it was wow! Looked it up that evening, Nope, I'll never see that price again.)
Blue harmonica, my other love. Goes back nearly as far. I've recently gotten into n+10.
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Every now and again Rick Hunter has his Nugz in stock. They would work here, I think: https://huntercycles.bigcartel.com/product/hunter-nugz
Edit: you've essentially got that on the rear.
Edit: you've essentially got that on the rear.
Those Nugs definitely look nicer than my home brew solution. They must be very nice indeed to consistently sell out at $30!
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These hip shooters are pricey, too: https://huntercycles.bigcartel.com/p...r-hip-shooters I bet they do the job!
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Well, I haven't got this derailleur anywhere near silent. It makes a noise like a well oiled machine; but my other bikes are quieter. I'm not convinced anything is wrong, maladjusted or otherwise. But it's still a noisy derailleur. It shifts promptly and smoothly, and rarely ghost shifts. It's a good derailleur. I won't call it great; but definitely good.
And it feels robust. Let's give this thing five or ten thousand miles and I'll get back to you.
Well, I haven't got this derailleur anywhere near silent. It makes a noise like a well oiled machine; but my other bikes are quieter. I'm not convinced anything is wrong, maladjusted or otherwise. But it's still a noisy derailleur. It shifts promptly and smoothly, and rarely ghost shifts. It's a good derailleur. I won't call it great; but definitely good.
And it feels robust. Let's give this thing five or ten thousand miles and I'll get back to you.
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So it was noisy when not shifting? Does that mean the chain against the pulleys made the noise?
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