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Old 07-08-08, 12:59 PM
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Republican Congressman Blasts Bicycles

This pretty much sums it up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip8nozp7vs8

Ugh. Perhaps he needs to hear from his constituents.
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this is probably a year old and there have been many threads on him.
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Originally Posted by littlewaywelt
this is probably a year old and there have been many threads on him.
And these guys will beat it to death another 20 times (at least) before November.
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What a dumb@$$! I don't care if the video does get beaten into the ground. People need to see this idiot who probably drives his car 1/4 mile to the local convenience store.
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I am at work and cant see utube, which republican is it?
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Originally Posted by making
I am at work and cant see utube, which republican is it?
Representative McHenry from North Carolina, 10th District.
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I am at work and cant see utube, which republican is it?
"Rep. McHenry Blasts Dems"

Basically McHenry is mocking some aspect of the Democratic energy plan that encourages cycling as a way to reduce dependence on foreign oil. He does this in a mocking way, acting the clown. Meanwhile, the reality is that bicycles can indeed be used for short trips everywhere... but never mind McHenry, he no doubt considers bicycles as toys and probably "beneath his station."
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And his position has not changed much:
https://mchenry.house.gov/News/Docume...cumentID=96587
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Originally Posted by McHenry
There are an estimated 18 billion barrels of recoverable oil in Alaska, the equivalent of 30 years of Middle East imports. Along the Outer Continental Shelf, there are an estimated 86 billion barrels of recoverable oil. In all, the United States possesses enough crude oil to power 65 million cars for 60 years.
Somehow McHenry fails econ 101... even if this "supply" is unleashed on the American public, how exactly does this bring down the price of gas at the pump? The demand will continue to increase as it has.

It will still take time to process any new oil sources and refine that oil and in the meantime the rest of the world will continue to put demands on whatever resources exist.

Perhaps McHenry should consider that alternatives to oil must still be created... and as he points out even the reserve will run out in 60 years (assuming all those "estimates" are correct). I wonder what his grandchildren will use?
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Is that not the dude who got into trouble for going to Baghdad and throwing a tantrum when some security guard refused to give him access to some gym . He was so upset about that refusal, he used a cell phone to lodge a complaint and revealed information endangering soldiers. / Yes. It's McHenry. Why would he want access to a gym . Instead he should be on the couch eating pork rinds.
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[QUOTE=genec;7027290]Somehow McHenry fails econ 101... even if this "supply" is unleashed on the American public, how exactly does this bring down the price of gas at the pump? The demand will continue to increase as it has.

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Evidently McHenry has not visited London, Paris, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Munich. Likely even New York, or Chicago. Ever seen Amsterdam. The tens of thousands of bicycles used to commute each day. The affect on gridlock. And , the affect on gasoline consumption. Each day, it likely saves millions of gallons , if each of those cyclists had used the car instead./ I figure in my cycling careeer, I've saved over 1000 gallons in the last 6 years. If all part time motorists would make that statement. likely the cost of petro would actually fall.
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listen, you have to understand how important it is for the oil companies to make as much money as possible. They pay for the government, so why shouldn't the government give them tax breaks, free access to public land, turn a blind eye towards pollution, and sit on their hands while they manipulate the energy markets?
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[QUOTE=DonQuixote1954;7027515]
Originally Posted by cyclezealot

Please do ANYTHING, but don't let the cost of petro actually fall...

My point here is that for every McHenry that has an open hostility toward cycling, there are 99 legislators who are NOT friendly to bikes. They are all for the status quo, and don't think much about bicycles.

What do you think they drive, bikes or SUVs?
Check it out Quixote. There is a bicycle caucus in the Congress. Headed by the congressman Earl ( something) from Portland, Or. Not all pols are dumb heads. That caucus does all it can to further bike infrastructure.
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Anyone else think to call McHenry's office. It was fun. I asked if the Congressman has ever been out of town. I talked of all the gridlock adverted and gasoline saved in London, Amsterdam, Munich, Barcelona. And suggested he need travel more./ They did not mention the popularity of cycling in Baghdad. Call 202 224-3121. ask for Rep Patrick McHenry.
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There are an estimated 18 billion barrels of recoverable oil in Alaska, the equivalent of 30 years of Middle East imports. Along the Outer Continental Shelf, there are an estimated 86 billion barrels of recoverable oil. In all, the United States possesses enough crude oil to power 65 million cars for 60 years.
This is the problem.
No one calls the Rethuglicans on their cockamamie math!

IF ALL this domestic oil IS recoverable (and that's a big IF), the total would be 104 Billion barrels (18B in ANWR, plus another 86B along the continental shelf).

Assuming that US demand stayed flat at 21 million barrels a day (a rather large assumption), that would last us about 13.5 years.

21,000,000 Barrels per Day X 365 days X 13.5 = 103,477,500,000 Barrels.

Don't these idiots have people to check this stuff?
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The Republican congressmen from Houston, Texas blocked federal funding for an expansion of commuter rail. They said "Everyone who know drives to work...there is no need for commuter rail in Houston".

Of course, at 8 a.m., driving ten miles on a Houston freeway can take half an hour, but "Everybody" is driving to work.
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The fella bragging about all the oil in Alaska missed an interesting story in the paper this week. The oil companies are carrying as "assets" on their books reserves in areas already open to drilling in the lower 48 states big enough to supply the USA for at least five or ten years. But, they refuse to drill in these reserves, preferring to hold them until they can sell their drilling rights for a "windfall" profit.

The oil companies figure that drilling and removing oil from West Texas would cost them $50 per barrel while oil sells for $130 a barrel, a profit of $80 a barrel. They think that if they REFUSE to drill, they can wait to sell their drilling rights ten years from now for $300 a barrel...a profit of $300 a barrel without ever bothering to produce a drop of oil.

So, the oil companies are asking for permission to drill in protected wilderness areas, even while they REFUSE to drill in areas that already open for drilling. In the 2000 election, oil executives bragged that President Bush was "bought and paid for". And, nothing has happened in the past eight years to prove them wrong.
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Originally Posted by DonQuixote1954
The only Republican I know about that is doing something good for the country is Schwarzenegger, probably because he plays the good guy in many movies...

Governor Schwarzenegger Announces $136 Million for Transit Projects to Keep Californians and Our Economy Moving

https://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/press-release/9871/

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Did he not really kick some aliens butt once? by believe in do you mean as in they exist or they are good?
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[QUOTE=DonQuixote1954;7029909]
Originally Posted by cyclezealot

Yeah, I think we discussed it before. They can only do so much with little resources. Nothing like the Pentagon, or even NASA. That's where the real money goes.

I'm even sure the War on Drugs gets more money than bikes. Come to think of it, if we brought the Dutch system, we could use that money for bike facilities.
My impression, Considering the lack of influence , money, and lobbyists they do a decent job of inserting cycling projects into the alternative transportation budget. After all , we have Lance as a spokesmen.
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Originally Posted by DonQuixote1954
The only Republican I know about that is doing something good for the country is Schwarzenegger, probably because he plays the good guy in many movies...

Governor Schwarzenegger Announces $136 Million for Transit Projects to Keep Californians and Our Economy Moving

https://gov.ca.gov/index.php?/press-release/9871/

All others believe in SUVs, war and God.
If Schwarzenegger wants to save the California economy, transportation is equal to water needs. When it comes to solving the water problem , its getting desperate. Someone must have some ideas as what to do.
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[QUOTE=DonQuixote1954;7029909]
Originally Posted by cyclezealot

I'm even sure the War on Drugs gets more money than bikes. Come to think of it, if we brought the Dutch system, we could use that money for bike facilities.
Definitely. At least 24 times more (probably more, I used drug war spending data from 2003).

#15 drug war spending 2003.
$800 mil for bike spending under bike advocacy.
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Originally Posted by cyclezealot
If Schwarzenegger wants to save the California economy, transportation is equal to water needs. When it comes to solving the water problem , its getting desperate. Someone must have some ideas as what to do.
yeah, what the heck are they going to do about water? same story with all the other western states. i can't see how that much development can possibly be sustainable for more than a few decades.
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Originally Posted by timmhaan
yeah, what the heck are they going to do about water? same story with all the other western states. i can't see how that much development can possibly be sustainable for more than a few decades.
i remember reading years ago, and I have read some whacky stuff over the years, but it was an article in Omni or Popular Mechanics or something about pushing or pulling ice bergs south to add to california and mexicos water supply. I guess it was not practicle becasue I have not heard of it since. Anybody ever read anything about it since?
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Originally Posted by DonQuixote1954
Is he to blame for the drought? Maybe we all do... Global Warming.

They are blaming Global Warming for wildfires now.
California has a well established history of super long droughts. There are just too many users of a finite supply of water and this has very little to do with global climate change.
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This is disgusting. I think i might have thrown up a little! this shows you how smart the majority of the republican party is. They use childish insults in a formal setting. How dare he! and they think that our solution is cheaper gas. ugh The solution is no gas at all but rather alternate forms of energy. when are they going to understand that it will eventually run out so why wait? start researching new technologies and changing your ways today! WHY DID THEY KILL THE ELECTRIC CAR!?!?! anyways im just mad cuz i have to buy a new set of cranks!

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