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Old 05-20-20, 06:14 AM
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& now come the natural disasters

Michigan is going to have a 500 yr flood? & ppl will have to shelter together?

Florida is re-opening & hurricane season is coming ...
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Humans are to Earth as that one floater that just won’t flush is to people. Eventually, Ol’ Nature will get us all. She’s trying really hard right now, and we’re just circling the bowl...
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Old 05-20-20, 09:23 AM
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Wow let’s hope that big sleeping volcano doesn’t erupt taking 1/2 the US with it
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
Wow let’s hope that big sleeping volcano doesn’t erupt taking 1/2 the US with it
Not much to worry about Yellowstone. Most of the USA will just be gone.

It is the rest of the world that will have to worry about it as there could be no food for 3 years.
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I started another thread under Politics about natural disasters that we've been hit with including a earthquake in Puerto Rico. It shouldn't have been bad, but I presume lax building codes made it much worse than it should have been.

Tornadoes hitting trailer parks?

We've been raked by a tropical storm. Apparently not a lot of damage.
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Old 05-20-20, 11:09 AM
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Not much to worry about Yellowstone. Most of the USA will just be gone.

It is the rest of the world that will have to worry about it as there could be no food for 3 years.
comforting, thank you
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
Michigan is going to have a 500 yr flood? & ppl will have to shelter together?

Florida is re-opening & hurricane season is coming ...
We had 4.5" of rain here in A2. Folks North of I-69 had much more. Dam failures on the Tittabawassee River was the last straw.
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Richard Leakey, like his father and mother, is an anthropologist who wrote a book several years ago titled "The 6th Extinction". He describes the geological record showing that there have been five extinctions in the past that wiped outmnost life on Earth and that we are now at the beginning of the sixth one caused by global warming. The consequences are disruptions of weather patterns where dry regions will become drier and wetter regions will see massive flooding. An immediate consequence is disruption of food production leading to massive migrations which in turn will lead to political conflict. It seems to me we are seeing this effect already as sub-saharan Africa gets drier and the inhabitants heading north to Europe and increased flooding in other areas. In any case, the book lays out a good case. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/b...d-roger-lewin/
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Old 05-23-20, 08:22 AM
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we are now at the beginning of the sixth one/
my intuition kinda hints to me that I should advise my kids not to have kids. I mean who needs that heartache
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Richard Leakey, like his father and mother, is an anthropologist who wrote a book several years ago titled "The 6th Extinction". He describes the geological record showing that there have been five extinctions in the past that wiped outmnost life on Earth and that we are now at the beginning of the sixth one caused by global warming. The consequences are disruptions of weather patterns where dry regions will become drier and wetter regions will see massive flooding. An immediate consequence is disruption of food production leading to massive migrations which in turn will lead to political conflict. It seems to me we are seeing this effect already as sub-saharan Africa gets drier and the inhabitants heading north to Europe and increased flooding in other areas. In any case, the book lays out a good case. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/b...d-roger-lewin/
Apocalyptic predictions are always big sellers. This pandemic is not going to cause civilizational collapse, although it shows how a more severe one could.
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
my intuition kinda hints to me that I should advise my kids not to have kids. I mean who needs that heartache
My gut told me that 45 years ago and I didn't have the kids.
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Old 05-23-20, 09:52 AM
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Most of the natural disasters are local and don't have much impact on the rest of the world... I don't believe that there will ever be a natural disaster which is strong enough to bring the whole world to its knees. The Great Flood was probably the last great natural disaster this world had and I don't think anything on that scale will ever happen...As long as we don't get hit by an asteroid or some" man made experiment gone wrong", the world will continue to be ok.
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Most of the natural disasters are local and don't have much impact on the rest of the world... I don't believe that there will ever be a natural disaster which is strong enough to bring the whole world to its knees. The Great Flood was probably the last great natural disaster this world had and I don't think anything on that scale will ever happen...As long as we don't get hit by an asteroid or some" man made experiment gone wrong", the world will continue to be ok.
Which flood was that?
There have been a number of floods. Asteroid strike would be bad news, but not much we can do about that. I can easily imagine a much worse pandemic than this one, and I doubt we would be any better prepared.
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Which flood was that?
The one that happened few thousand years ago and supposedly wiped out most of the life on earth.
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
My gut told me that 45 years ago and I didn't have the kids.
maybe I shouldn't ask, but any regrets?

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Don't forget the murder hornets!
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Originally Posted by skookum View Post
Which flood was that?
There have been a number of floods. Asteroid strike would be bad news, but not much we can do about that.
Oh yes there is. I'd get a rag-tag (but lovable) group of oil drillers, train them to be astronauts, send them out on a rocket to intercept the asteroid, have them drill a deep hole into the asteroid, place a nuclear bomb inside the hole, and blow it up just before it smashes into the earth.
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Oh yes there is. I'd get a rag-tag (but lovable) group of oil drillers, train them to be astronauts, send them out on a rocket to intercept the asteroid, have them drill a deep hole into the asteroid, place a nuclear bomb inside the hole, and blow it up just before it smashes into the earth.
that would make a good movie
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Next up: cicadas:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/23/us/ci...rnd/index.html
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Apocalyptic predictions are always big sellers. This pandemic is not going to cause civilizational collapse, although it shows how a more severe one could.
An argument can be made that civilized behavior in USA is in the past. We may be hovering just above a failed state like others around the globe.
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
maybe I shouldn't ask, but any regrets?
I would have loved to have spent my life with that woman. Have kids to look after me in my coming years (though I see a lot of evidence that having kids doesn't guarantee that). But as I see how things have played out - energy, climate change, wars, famines, large swatches of earth becoming desert and the native populations having leave their home and go where they are not welcome, I do not regret that decision.

(Off topic but bike related - that decision may well have saved my life. That was in March. I'd dated the woman before college. She married and divorced. We weren't seeing each other but she invited me over for a Friday evening (at a Catholic nursing school - a boarding school. We had to keep her door open and I had to leave by 10!) I didn't pop the question. Over the next few weeks decided that since I didn't, I would race another season. Now, I'd vowed after the last year of just club racing only to get the goofy Bell helmet if I raced again and started doing open races because I knew I wasn't fast enough to ride the front all the time in 3-4 races and stay ahead of the crashes. This meant I was wearing that Bell helmet 8 months later when my non-racing bike broke and I hit my head very hard.

Had I asked her, I would never have bought that helmet. The bike would have been ridden until it broke. I might have fared better, but it is very possible I might have fared far worse.)

So, some real sadness, some very mixed feelings, some regrets but if I were there again, I hope I would make the same decision.

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wow that is heavy. glad you survived that crash. I like to imagine if I didn’t leave the greater NYC area for Boston I would have still met my wife & had our same kids cuz she had connections down there too & still does. a difference would have been that our kids would have been raised in the city which would be cool but instead they’re outer suburb kids near apple orchards & corn fields
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civilized behavior in USA is in the past
we'll fix that in the fall
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