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Old 01-21-20, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by seedsbelize View Post
My 105 is from the mid 80s. Thr best groupset I've ever used. Those slr brakes are the schiz
my fave was the 600 groupo before grifters. Friken awesomeness. I might still have a set in the garage waiting for the correct frame.
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Originally Posted by ls01 View Post
my fave was the 600 groupo before grifters.
I had 600 downtube on my Bianchi SLX back in the early 90s. I remember it being good stuff.
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I think it was my first indexed shifter. But only the rear, the front was still friction.
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my fave was the 600 groupo before grifters.
Before grifters? Dang, you must me ancient!
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Called it.

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Oh, because you were hoping for oxy. Next question...
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wut
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol View Post
Peak bicycle technology, really.
Take it to C&V
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They are getting *very* close, now. I haven't looked at the non-hydro stuff, but within the current groups, you're looking at stuff like: paint vs anodized, aluminum vs carbon levers, the ability to alter brake engagement, slightly better bearings in the RD, etc. Oh, and a couple hundred grams or so. IOW, in terms of function and performance, there's almost nothing separating them. Vanity and weightweenie-ism will keep the Ultegra and DA selling, though.


It keeps AG at Ultegra or DA. I'm good with 105... my big concern is having full compatibility with new parts.
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my fave was the 600 groupo before grifters. Friken awesomeness. I might still have a set in the garage waiting for the correct frame.
Can you call Japanese components "groupo"?
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I had 600 downtube on my Bianchi SLX back in the early 90s. I remember it being good stuff.
I don't miss my downtube shifters.
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Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
Can you call Japanese components "groupo"?
It’s “gruppo” anyway, no?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug View Post


It keeps AG at Ultegra or DA. I'm good with 105... my big concern is having full compatibility with new parts.
You wouldn't want AG to suffer the cold, impersonal feel of alloy levers every time she brakes, would you?

Hey, maybe that's another excuse justification for Ultegra - in my northern clime, 105 levers would sap too much heat from my fingers! Yeah, that's the ticket.
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It’s “gruppo” anyway, no?
Except on BF
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BTW, Campy's US website calls a collection of components a groupset.

https://www.campagnolo.com/US/en

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Can you call Japanese components "groupo"?
No. Only Campy. Can you call Campy Campy??
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Before grifters? Dang, you must me ancient!
lol. Bitten by auto correct. Brifters not grifters
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
You wouldn't want AG to suffer the cold, impersonal feel of alloy levers every time she brakes, would you?

Hey, maybe that's another excuse justification for Ultegra - in my northern clime, 105 levers would sap too much heat from my fingers! Yeah, that's the ticket.
Simple as that.

The unwashed may use metal stuff, but give me carbon fiber every day of the week.
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You wouldn't want AG to suffer the cold, impersonal feel of alloy levers every time she brakes, would you?

Hey, maybe that's another excuse justification for Ultegra - in my northern clime, 105 levers would sap too much heat from my fingers! Yeah, that's the ticket.
I'm the one with Raynaud's, and that would be a better excuse if she hadn't directly said it was vanity.
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Can you call Japanese components "groupo"?
Can you say "groupo" (or better, "gruppo") in English?
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Can you say "groupo" (or better, "gruppo") in English?
Indeed.
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I go back in tomorrow for another session. I got on the upright and rode uptown and back in severe pain. Asi es la vida. Being off coffee trumps all.
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one general tip for when the exact hub cone is not readily available. discovered that the curvature of the bearing surface on the shimano 600 was a pretty good "skeleton key" for many applications. it would sometimes require a small change in ball size to make everything come out correctly.
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No. Only Campy. Can you call Campy Campy??
Yes. Campy is Campy.
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