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Old 01-21-20, 10:07 AM
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I have to show off my grail bike

Not sure what to call it yet but hereís the keeper​​​​​​: my Ď84 Miyata. Sub 250 miles from the original owner out in Santa Cruz

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Old 01-21-20, 10:40 AM
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Wow very nice!!!
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Old 01-21-20, 10:42 AM
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Sweet wheels & tyres.
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Nice. This along with that specialized expedition you have would be near the top of my list of touring bikes to own.
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Old 01-21-20, 10:44 AM
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Beautiful!!!!!
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Nice! Some fresh grease in the bearings, new hoods, pads, and better tires (are those Kenda?) and it'll be all ready to go on tour.

Are those brakes DC 982s? Can we get any close-ups?
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Old 01-21-20, 10:53 AM
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Great Looking Bike, Enjoy!!
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Nice! Some fresh grease in the bearings, new hoods, pads, and better tires (are those Kenda?) and it'll be all ready to go on tour.
How I loved my Miyata 1000 and, foolish fellow that I am, I sold it. A guy and his girlfriend, from Minneapolis, drove the 400 miles through a snow storm to pick the bike up. Now that is a bit of a testimony to what others think of the 1000. As for me - one of the nicest riding bikes ever to come my way. And...


Look at those tires. They just might be the original radials. Sadly, the radials on mine were shot.
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Old 01-21-20, 02:23 PM
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My kind of machine -- comfortable, ample tire clearance, triple up front.
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Old 01-21-20, 02:29 PM
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Nice! Congrats on scoring your grail bike. Itís a beauty.

I like the Miyata water bottles too, nice extra touch.
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Old 01-21-20, 02:37 PM
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Nice score. You have the unobtainable Miyata bottles and cages, too! Jealous.
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She's a beaut!!!
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For the last couple of years it seemed that the prices on these bikes had gone down, but I'm starting to see prices go up again to the 600-800 range and being bought quickly, especially where I live.
Ride it, cherish it, and take it on a tour. You and the bike both deserve it.
I've ridden some LHT and other touring bikes, but I quite like the Miyata. Only one that was comparable to ride quality was the Nishiki International Touring Series from 1989, in my opinion.
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Got to love the One Thousand. I picked up a 1985 last year,not my size. Made my taller brother a happy man though.
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Old 01-21-20, 06:52 PM
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Congratulations on your 84 1000. I got my grail another 1984 Miyata 1000 last year in the same condition/original owner as yours, only in blue!

Iím very happy with mine.

1984 Miyata 1000
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I would not call it showing off your bike. I call it treating us to a look at your true classic. Very Nice! Same to the other picture posters.
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Old 01-21-20, 07:16 PM
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Wish I had a grail bike.
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Originally Posted by LBCwanabe View Post
Not sure what to call it yet but hereís the keeper​​​​​​: my Ď84 Miyata. Sub 250 miles from the original owner out in Santa Cruz

Pretty bike. I recognize the Sugino GT triple, but what are those derailleurs? Monster cage on the rear! Nice find!
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Originally Posted by Slightspeed View Post
Pretty bike. I recognize the Sugino GT triple, but what are those derailleurs? Monster cage on the rear! Nice find!
Those are a special longer cage Superplate Deerhead. There was a thread with some about them recently not being reliable.
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Pretty bike. I recognize the Sugino GT triple, but what are those derailleurs? Monster cage on the rear! Nice find!
I believe that's the "Super Plate", which had a separate short idler arm between the main lower pivot and the pulley cage, that allowed the whole cage to float up and down, sorta like a DuoPar. Suntour also made a Mountech with this basic idea.

I think the one in the photo is adjusted wrong or broken, because the upper pulley is too far away from the freewheel cog. That second idler arm should only be angled down like that when you're on the largest cog. The whole point of the Super Plate (or DuoPar) was to keep the jockey pulley as close to the freewheel as possible in each gear.

I didn't work on them, so I don't know if this is something that can be fixed with an adjustment. Sometimes the springs have more than one hole you can put the anchor tab in. If so, I would try increasing the preload on the spring in the main lower pivot -- that's the spring that makes the idler arm want to go up. Or reduce the tension in the secondary spring, the one on the pulley cage. I bet the proper floating action depends on a balance between those two springs.

Or it could be the pivots are just gummed up, so they can't float to the correct height for each freewheel sprocket. Maybe just a thorough clean'n'lube? Certainly that's the first thing to try.

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I don't mean to sound negative about the bike, it's a beaut. But I also want to point out the panniers are on backwards. Try swapping them right to left. Might work perfectly either way, but these have an angle to them intended to make more heel clearance. Or maybe I should say it lets you mount the bags farther forward on the rack, for the same heel clearance, and better weight distribution. Also those white patches are meant to point to the rear for visibility.
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You sure did!

Originally Posted by garryg View Post
Got to love the One Thousand. I picked up a 1985 last year,not my size. Made my taller brother a happy man though.
I was just thinking about the One Thousand sitting in my garage. Looking forward to spring and riding it again!
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Congrats on landing your grail bike. Very nice!
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Just a reminder to those Miyata 1000 owners, if you haven't had the chance, please post a pic of your M1000 in the https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ta-1000-a.html thread! Always looking forward to them!

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Originally Posted by bulgie View Post
I believe that's the "Super Plate", which had a separate short idler arm between the main lower pivot and the pulley cage, that allowed the whole cage to float up and down, sorta like a DuoPar. Suntour also made a Mountech with this basic idea.

I think the one in the photo is adjusted wrong or broken, because the upper pulley is too far away from the freewheel cog. That second idler arm should only be angled down like that when you're on the largest cog. The whole point of the Super Plate (or DuoPar) was to keep the jockey pulley as close to the freewheel as possible in each gear.

I didn't work on them, so I don't know if this is something that can be fixed with an adjustment. Sometimes the springs have more than one hole you can put the anchor tab in. If so, I would try increasing the preload on the spring in the main lower pivot -- that's the spring that makes the idler arm want to go up. Or reduce the tension in the secondary spring, the one on the pulley cage. I bet the proper floating action depends on a balance between those two springs.

Or it could be the pivots are just gummed up, so they can't float to the correct height for each freewheel sprocket. Maybe just a thorough clean'n'lube? Certainly that's the first thing to try.

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itís gummed and hasnít been cleaned up yet


I have the stock seat and pedals with leather toe straps too 😃😃
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