Disc breaks
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Disc breaks
I have an old Nishiki Olympic 10 sp. I would like to upgrade to disc brakes but know nothing about them, any info would appreciated.
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Do you know how to weld or braze? Converting that frame is going to require disc brake mounts to be welded or brazed onto the frame and fork. It is also going to require you to buy a new wheelset with disc hubs and the brakes/rotors. Seems like more than the bike is worth.
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It could be relatively easy. It could be impossible.
The wheels need to be build with a hub that will mount a disc rotor. You cannot mount a rotor to just any wheel. If the bike was originally set up for V brakes, the odds are slim that your current wheels will work. You can replace wheels but...
Your frame needs to have mounts for disc brakes. This is not something you can gerry rig. The frame has to have caliper mounts built into the frame and the frame has to be wide enough to accommodate the rotor and caliper. If the frame has caliper mounts it can be done. If the caliper mounts are not built into the frame, it's not going to happen.
You may also have to change your brake levers at the handlebars. You for certain will if you want hydraulic brakes. You may have to if you want mechanical.
This is not a cheap swap. Depending on the bike it may cost more than the bike is worth and may end up being easier just to buy a new bike built for disc brakes.
The wheels need to be build with a hub that will mount a disc rotor. You cannot mount a rotor to just any wheel. If the bike was originally set up for V brakes, the odds are slim that your current wheels will work. You can replace wheels but...
Your frame needs to have mounts for disc brakes. This is not something you can gerry rig. The frame has to have caliper mounts built into the frame and the frame has to be wide enough to accommodate the rotor and caliper. If the frame has caliper mounts it can be done. If the caliper mounts are not built into the frame, it's not going to happen.
You may also have to change your brake levers at the handlebars. You for certain will if you want hydraulic brakes. You may have to if you want mechanical.
This is not a cheap swap. Depending on the bike it may cost more than the bike is worth and may end up being easier just to buy a new bike built for disc brakes.
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You would need a major upgrade to do this. You can certainly use your present levers
for a cable operated disc brake. However, disc brakes require specific mounts on the front
fork and the L rear chainstay of the bike frame for the calipers to be attached. You could put a front disc
on by buying a new fork that is disc specific. You would also need new wheel hubs to
attach the disc to the hub. Not for nothing have disc brake makers migrated to 'through axles'
which reduces the tendency of front discs to liberate the front wheel from the fork under braking
torque. A rear disc is more problematic as you would need to weld/braze a caliper mount to the
L rear chain stay, and the rear triangle is almost certainly too narrow to accommodate the disked wheel.
for a cable operated disc brake. However, disc brakes require specific mounts on the front
fork and the L rear chainstay of the bike frame for the calipers to be attached. You could put a front disc
on by buying a new fork that is disc specific. You would also need new wheel hubs to
attach the disc to the hub. Not for nothing have disc brake makers migrated to 'through axles'
which reduces the tendency of front discs to liberate the front wheel from the fork under braking
torque. A rear disc is more problematic as you would need to weld/braze a caliper mount to the
L rear chain stay, and the rear triangle is almost certainly too narrow to accommodate the disked wheel.
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You can't, realistically.
Sorry.
Look on the bright side: You can get a new bike.
Sorry.
Look on the bright side: You can get a new bike.
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You would need to replace at least your wheel hubs with disc compatible ones, respace the rear triangle of the bike to accept the new hubs, and have disc mounts welded or brazed to the frame and fork.
Those three steps are likely to cost more than a new disc-equipped bike. As well the frame and fork were not designed to handle the amount of force generated by disc brakes, so you will likely eventually have frame or fork failure from this. I'm not saying not to do it - but just know that there are a number of significant challenges associated with the plan.
Other things you can do to improve braking:
If you have steel rims, replace with alloy rims... the function of brake pads on steel rims goes from 'not great' in dry conditions when everything is set up perfectly, to 'damn scary' when wet.
You can (and should) also replace the brake cables and housing with good quality modern stuff.
Also replace the brake pads with new ones. Even if the ones on the bike are good quality, the rubber dries up over the years and they stop less effectively.
Lastly, modern 'dual pivot' caliper brakes are available that will bolt right on in place of the (probably centre pull?) brakes that are on the bike now. You need to confirm that the 'reach' of the brake, as well as the attachment method, are compatible.
Those three steps are likely to cost more than a new disc-equipped bike. As well the frame and fork were not designed to handle the amount of force generated by disc brakes, so you will likely eventually have frame or fork failure from this. I'm not saying not to do it - but just know that there are a number of significant challenges associated with the plan.
Other things you can do to improve braking:
If you have steel rims, replace with alloy rims... the function of brake pads on steel rims goes from 'not great' in dry conditions when everything is set up perfectly, to 'damn scary' when wet.
You can (and should) also replace the brake cables and housing with good quality modern stuff.
Also replace the brake pads with new ones. Even if the ones on the bike are good quality, the rubber dries up over the years and they stop less effectively.
Lastly, modern 'dual pivot' caliper brakes are available that will bolt right on in place of the (probably centre pull?) brakes that are on the bike now. You need to confirm that the 'reach' of the brake, as well as the attachment method, are compatible.
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A new, or at least used in good condition, is a better choice, in my opinion. Too complicated and too much money to " upgrade" your present bike. Are you not happy with the brakes the bike has now.? As stated above, There are things you can do to improve the braking on your present set-up. I definitely suggest Kool Stop salmon, orange, brake pads. Get the calipers/levers adjusted right and your bike will brake much better. Otherwise, new bike time.
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and yes forget disc...... if you must dual pivot brakes and good pads are the best bang for the buck
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If a rim brake frame? no disc mounts were fitted..
But I built wheels around Drum brake hubs,
to get around that..
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But I built wheels around Drum brake hubs,
to get around that..
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