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Old 06-29-19, 05:47 PM
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Thanks for the love everyone. It rides like a dream.
Quick follow up question - is it safe to have holes drilled in the downtube for some rivnuts for a bottle cage mount?
I wouldn't hesitate to do so.
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I wouldn't hesitate to do so.
I went to my shop and they said they wouldn’t do it for liability reasons. Went to another shop (that I trust) and he said yeah no problem but he personally wouldn’t do it because it would compromise the integrity of the originality—not the frame lol.
A google search was not helpful since some people said yes it’s steel drill away and the other half were like dear god no that’s a terrible idea you’ll die!
So, yeah.
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I would get bottle mount band clamps, very appropriate for your build.
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I would get bottle mount band clamps, very appropriate for your build.
i second this...strongly. soon as you start drilling/making holes you compromise the paint and it's the first place rust will start unless you take proper measures. it weakens the paint bond in that precise little spot. there are some really nice, classy looking cage clamps to be had. perhaps some heat shrink tubing done artfully around the clamps so as not to scratch up the paint. there's, of course, black, but there's also white and clear. otherwise, daaaannggg! so very nice build!
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...the other half were like dear god no that’s a terrible idea you’ll die!
But at least it will be a slow painful death?

I'm going to drill a Hercules 3 speed I have, I generally don't have cages on it, but I do take it on longer rides here and there so it will be nice to not fiddle with clamps when I do want to put cages on it.

If the cages will always be on the bike band clamps work just fine.

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I got some clamps and put it on today. I wanted to get it drilled so it was a nice clean look with no bolt hanging down under the tube (I'm very specific about aesthetics). I also didn't want to chance the clamps or cage tabs scratching the paint - but to combat that I put some tape along the inside of the clamps, and on the bottom of the tabs.
Here's what it looks like




The bolts the clamps came with I think are too long for my taste - they stick out a lot and I hate it. So I'll have to see if I can find some shorter bolts.
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My friend and I bought Raleighs at the same shop at the same time. He got a Super Tourer, and I got a Gran Sport. The shop was offering an insanely good deal for Gran Sport buyers where they would replace the Simplex derailleurs and provide Huret Jubilee stuff, so I took that deal. I think he still has the Super Tourer.

I do recommend replacing the crappy brakes. You shouldn't mess around with sub-par brakes. I have Tektro brakes on my International. I mounted the rear in front of the seat stays, so it looks backward, but it works just fine.
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Originally Posted by the sci guy
I got some clamps and put it on today. I wanted to get it drilled so it was a nice clean look with no bolt hanging down under the tube (I'm very specific about aesthetics). I also didn't want to chance the clamps or cage tabs scratching the paint - but to combat that I put some tape along the inside of the clamps, and on the bottom of the tabs.
Here's what it looks like


The bolts the clamps came with I think are too long for my taste - they stick out a lot and I hate it. So I'll have to see if I can find some shorter bolts.
run to lowe's or home depot. they've got big drawers of stainless bolts in metric, so you should be able to easily find shorter ones ....with allen heads even

you might try some kool stop salmon pads for your brakes. otherwise, if still to no avail, i think some dia compe 500 sidepulls would be a swell looking replacement. i had some on my '82 trek and they stopped quite nicely. they do resemble the weinmann's a bit in design. i think weinmann and dia compe stuff usually resembled each other alot, anyway. the other factor simply may be your levers themselves. mechanical advantage and whatnot. someone more knowledgeable may care to elaborate on that. provided it continues to be an issue, of course

https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-DIA...M/153516951067
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So I'm already contemplating changing the bars and brakes. After 6 commutes I've been able to understand how the bike fits and works a little better. I love how the Rando bars look, but the angle at which the old hoods & levers sit, and the fact that the bike is actually 1 size too large, makes the reach a little harder - and my smaller hands have a hard time grabbing and pulling the levers.

I'm thinking about switching to either of these bars
Velo Orange Porteur Bars: https://velo-orange.com/collections/...nt=50647680263
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Soma 3spd Moustache II Bar: https://www.somafab.com/archives/pro...ustache-ii-bar

I have no experience with either type of bar, but I like the look of them, and I need something that brings the reach down. Any thoughts as to which you would prefer and why?
My commute is more of a faster, drop bar style than an upright slow-poke style, if that helps. I've got some short steep hills to climb, too, so I'll need to be able to stand up and mash briefly from time to time. Otherwise, the bike will be an errand-runner/go-getter/grocery-shopper.
...and I suppose the follow up question would be - regular brake levers: https://velo-orange.com/collections/...-brakes-levers / https://velo-orange.com/collections/...-22-2-dia-bars
or bar end reverse levers? https://velo-orange.com/collections/...e-brake-levers
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Originally Posted by the sci guy
I got some clamps and put it on today. I wanted to get it drilled so it was a nice clean look with no bolt hanging down under the tube (I'm very specific about aesthetics). I also didn't want to chance the clamps or cage tabs scratching the paint - but to combat that I put some tape along the inside of the clamps, and on the bottom of the tabs.
Here's what it looks like




The bolts the clamps came with I think are too long for my taste - they stick out a lot and I hate it. So I'll have to see if I can find some shorter bolts.
That looks good! What bottle cage is that, is it stainless? I want to do the same on my Raleigh, but I can't find any stainless cages that have long enough mounting tabs for the band clamps.
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That looks good! What bottle cage is that, is it stainless? I want to do the same on my Raleigh, but I can't find any stainless cages that have long enough mounting tabs for the band clamps.
I'm not sure it's actually branded. I got it for cheap at a shop that was closing to move locations last week. Yes it's stainless, and had the tabs (bought the clamps at the same time). I'll see if I can find out where it came from.
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Old 07-08-19, 07:28 AM
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I used these on my ‘73 Raleigh supercourse.
Bottle clamps
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Old 07-23-19, 08:23 PM
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Finally was able to switch out the drop bars and the old levers/hoods that weren't working for me.

Replaced with Soma Late Riser bar, Brooks leather wrapped grips, and Tektro city levers.






The brakes work better now that I'm able to actually pull the levers better. They aren't perfect but they'll do for now, and I'll stay on the lookout for some better calipers.
It's also much more comfortable to ride in general so I'm happy with the switch. Thing is such a tank, though, lol.
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Always thought the Super Tourer was a good looking bike, though rarely ever saw one in person. Very distinct for it's time period. Upright handlebars and black Blumels fenders conjure up image of history professor riding across campus with a pipe in his mouth.

Very well done, maestro.
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Well history was part of my double major in undergrad, AND I used to be a teacher - but not of history...does that come close at least?
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In case anyone is interested in bike related long-form, I finally finished my write-up on restoring this bike: https://thesurlybiker.wordpress.com/...rocery-getter/
I suppose a lot of it was chronicled here, but, thought I'd share the post anyway!
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