Does this tire need to be replaced?
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Does this tire need to be replaced?
Hi all.
My front tire has small bits of wire showing through the rubber in two places, as well as some stray threads hanging off along the bead. Does the tire need to be replaced? I'm a recreational rider who doesn't really care about performance -- just safety. That said, I do weigh in at 220 lb (100kg), so the tire does have to work harder than some others might.
The tire is a Bontrager H2, 700 x 28, if that matters. (Actually, it's a Bontrager H2, 700 x 28 whether that matters or not -- but I digress.)
My front tire has small bits of wire showing through the rubber in two places, as well as some stray threads hanging off along the bead. Does the tire need to be replaced? I'm a recreational rider who doesn't really care about performance -- just safety. That said, I do weigh in at 220 lb (100kg), so the tire does have to work harder than some others might.
The tire is a Bontrager H2, 700 x 28, if that matters. (Actually, it's a Bontrager H2, 700 x 28 whether that matters or not -- but I digress.)
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That looks a little suspect to me. I'd replace it. The threads on the sidewall look damaged just enough to make me worry that it might start coming apart in the middle of a ride and being a high pressure tire the risk is higher. If it were a bike that I used to ride a mile to the store and back I'd put it on the rear and check it often. What's going on it the second photo? Sort of looks like some duct tape was on there and left some adhesive residue. There is still enough rubber on that spot to cover the casing so no threads should be showing. Other than the white spot I can't figure out what the issue is.
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Do you feel anything while you ride? If not, ride on.
I've flatted plenty of times at 20 mph or better speeds and it's never been a big deal. The bike gets a little squirrely, but how long does it take you to come to a stop? If you can't noticed that and persist in riding, then that would be a problem, especially on twisty roads and trails. But even then, you would notice if you couldn't take a turn like you expected, then you'd stop and investigate if you had a flat, loose wheel or something wouldn't you?
If you are the type that ignores those clues, then change it.
If this is a brand new tire, then maybe check with the place you got it from. Sometimes even if it's nothing, they'll replace it just for the good customer perceptions it creates.
Do you check your tire pressure frequently? If you go most of a week with out checking, I'd think you negligent with your safety.
On the extreme side, if a way oversized tube was stuffed in there, that will make bumps and bulges too. But I don't think that's the issue with yours.
I've flatted plenty of times at 20 mph or better speeds and it's never been a big deal. The bike gets a little squirrely, but how long does it take you to come to a stop? If you can't noticed that and persist in riding, then that would be a problem, especially on twisty roads and trails. But even then, you would notice if you couldn't take a turn like you expected, then you'd stop and investigate if you had a flat, loose wheel or something wouldn't you?
If you are the type that ignores those clues, then change it.
If this is a brand new tire, then maybe check with the place you got it from. Sometimes even if it's nothing, they'll replace it just for the good customer perceptions it creates.
Do you check your tire pressure frequently? If you go most of a week with out checking, I'd think you negligent with your safety.
On the extreme side, if a way oversized tube was stuffed in there, that will make bumps and bulges too. But I don't think that's the issue with yours.
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My opinion is unless you have no alternative but to continue to ride on this tire, replace it. It's not worth an unexpected blowout that may or may not result in a bad outcome.
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Another question is why is it wearing in that spot like that? Might be that the rubber was thinner there and it just wore through sooner which happens and is no big deal. Sometimes that happens from under inflated tires though usually all the way around, something to be aware of and keep the pressure at a better level for a smoother, faster ride; this doesn't mean max inflation pressure but just higher then you are.
There's also the possibility that you're wheel isn't perfectly round (common) and the tire rubs against the brake pad at that point, probably when stopping, just hang the bike on a branch by the seat or flip it upside down, whatever helps you see what's happening. Squeeze the brake lightly enough that the pads can touch the rim but not stop you from turning it by hand and turn the wheel to that point and see if the pads touch the tire. If so, have the shop fix the problem which may involve making the wheel rounder, moving the brake pad or both depending on which is the bigger problem.
There's also the possibility that you're wheel isn't perfectly round (common) and the tire rubs against the brake pad at that point, probably when stopping, just hang the bike on a branch by the seat or flip it upside down, whatever helps you see what's happening. Squeeze the brake lightly enough that the pads can touch the rim but not stop you from turning it by hand and turn the wheel to that point and see if the pads touch the tire. If so, have the shop fix the problem which may involve making the wheel rounder, moving the brake pad or both depending on which is the bigger problem.
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If you leave that tire on, it might go another 2-3 years without any problem. OTOH, I agree with Clyde that it looks like the bead may be separating. If so, you'll probably be surprised when it yields and blows out, tomorrow or next month. I'd grit my teeth and replace it ASAP.
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I have had tires with damage like that on my tandem. This was years ago and I found tires that took the abuse without that happening. I have used Schwalbe tires exclusively for some time and they seldom have flats and no damage of any kind has occurred.
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I would replace them. If the sidewalls fail, a blowout will happen and it would pose a dangerous condition. In general, I tend to be on the cautious side of life, but better safe than sorry. I don't have anything against Bontrager components and gear (I ride a Trek and do buy Bontrager items) but if those are the original tires, some say the stock tires are solely used to keep the rims clean during shipping. I've only had one set of Bontrager tires (the ones that came with the bike) and I wasn't impressed by them. IMHO, there are plenty of high quality tires out there, better than Bontrager.
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I've only had one set of Bontrager tires (the ones that came with the bike) and I wasn't impressed by them. IMHO, there are plenty of high quality tires out there, better than Bontrager.
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Yeah that tire is well past replacement. Generally if you are asking the question, you probably shouldn't ride on the tire. You are already concerned enough that even if not as damaged as that tire is I wouldn't want to ride it.
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To those who say that tire is rideable as-is: my younger, more risk-tolerant self might have agreed, but after having suffered catastrophic blowouts on rides on tires that show similar bulging, I would advise to get new tires as soon as practicable. Sure you may get some more miles out of it but from the pictures that tire looks to be actually damaged, not just worn out, and it's at risk for a sudden sidewall blowout, especially at high psi and rider weight.
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Given the visible bulge and apparent fraying of the tire casing, and given this is the front tire, I'd absolutely replace that. It probably wouldn't be a big risk just poking around the neighborhood with the kids, but a failure of that sidewall casing at even moderate speed will put you in a risky situation that is very avoidable (by replacing the tire). You probably don't feel the bump when you ride. But every time that area comes around, you're compressing it with the weight of you and the bike which stresses and flexes and works that sidewall that's already ragged. The threads showing at the bead area in your second picture wouldn't be concerning to me, but that compromised sidewall certainly would be.
Edit: even if the front tire did blow out and you were able to maintain control of the bike, you'd still likely have some collateral damage. For example, you might be riding on the rim a little bit before you get the bike stopped, which would likely damage it. Keeping the tire on the bike could end up costing more money than replacing it.
Edit: even if the front tire did blow out and you were able to maintain control of the bike, you'd still likely have some collateral damage. For example, you might be riding on the rim a little bit before you get the bike stopped, which would likely damage it. Keeping the tire on the bike could end up costing more money than replacing it.
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I would
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#1... Check your Brake Pad Alignment. It appears as if the brake pads are rubbing on the tire.
#2... Replace the tire. The way the shape has distorted around the worn spot, the tire is shot.
#3... Check if the wheel is true.
Ok, not necessarily all in that order.
#2... Replace the tire. The way the shape has distorted around the worn spot, the tire is shot.
#3... Check if the wheel is true.
Ok, not necessarily all in that order.
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Seems to be a consensus that the tire is fornicated and needs replacement
Also mentioned above and worth repeating, figure out what caused the damage before you put a new tire on or the same thing may happen again.
Likely suspects: Misaligned brake pad hitting the tire, possibly aggravated by a dented or out-of-true wheel; riding with too low pressure which causes the tire to flex and move too much against the sidewall of the rim, or possibly getting pinched between the rim and the ground.
I have seen tires with similar damage when a rider got a puncture and stopped riding, but walked the bike home over some distance - even the weight of the bike without rider could be enough to damage the tire in such a scenario.
Also possible that the tire hit some obstacle at an oblique angle to cause such damage, or that the tire was old and weakened from regular use and sunlight and the casing failed organically.
Also mentioned above and worth repeating, figure out what caused the damage before you put a new tire on or the same thing may happen again.
Likely suspects: Misaligned brake pad hitting the tire, possibly aggravated by a dented or out-of-true wheel; riding with too low pressure which causes the tire to flex and move too much against the sidewall of the rim, or possibly getting pinched between the rim and the ground.
I have seen tires with similar damage when a rider got a puncture and stopped riding, but walked the bike home over some distance - even the weight of the bike without rider could be enough to damage the tire in such a scenario.
Also possible that the tire hit some obstacle at an oblique angle to cause such damage, or that the tire was old and weakened from regular use and sunlight and the casing failed organically.
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My plan was to replace the tire unless the overwhelming consensus here was that replacing it was unnecessary. That clearly wasn't the case, so I'm riding on new rubber now.
The brake was lined up correctly, but it does seem likely that that was the cause of the tire wear. Perhaps it was lined up poorly at some point in the past.
Thanks for all of your responses.
The brake was lined up correctly, but it does seem likely that that was the cause of the tire wear. Perhaps it was lined up poorly at some point in the past.
Thanks for all of your responses.