Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

What has improved in cycling?

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

What has improved in cycling?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-11-20, 03:45 PM
  #26  
gthomson
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
gthomson's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Great White North
Posts: 1,226

Bikes: 2013 Cannondale Caad 8, 2010 Opus Fidelio, 1985 Peugeot UO14, 1999 Peugeot Dune, Sakai Select, L'Avantage, 1971 Gitane Apache Standard, 1999 Specialized Hard Rock

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 548 Post(s)
Liked 473 Times in 302 Posts
Originally Posted by gugie
Ditto on internet and Bike Forums. Would never have met any of these people:


Come for the bikes, stay for the people.
Are all these people from the bike forums? if so, that's really cool
gthomson is offline  
Old 12-11-20, 03:51 PM
  #27  
gthomson
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
gthomson's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Great White North
Posts: 1,226

Bikes: 2013 Cannondale Caad 8, 2010 Opus Fidelio, 1985 Peugeot UO14, 1999 Peugeot Dune, Sakai Select, L'Avantage, 1971 Gitane Apache Standard, 1999 Specialized Hard Rock

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 548 Post(s)
Liked 473 Times in 302 Posts
I'm glad I posted this because as redundant as it seemed, I'm actually surprised at some of the responses. It looks like lighting is the most popular answer which would have never been my guess but then I don't really ride at night, so not really applicable.

Electronics is very helpful and not sure if my Vetta computer would be included in that category since it's a few decades old but it did tell me distance, speed, total KM's etc...but I like tracking and sharing my ride with Strava.

Can't ever say I'll be a fan of lycra but I guess it beats a wool jersey. Despite all the advancements in technology, steel is still awesome to ride.
gthomson is offline  
Old 12-11-20, 04:16 PM
  #28  
iab
Senior Member
 
iab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NW Burbs, Chicago
Posts: 12,048
Mentioned: 201 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3012 Post(s)
Liked 3,789 Times in 1,406 Posts
The weed is so much better than 40 years ago. And legal.

My legs and lungs have not improved from 40 years ago.

I like computer navigation over paper maps/cue sheets.

I like the performance wools of today certainly over the wool/acrylic blends and maybe a touch more than a pure merino. Easier to clean. Hold shape nice.

More stuff/information is available through the internets.

Chicks/dudes definitely dig me more.
iab is offline  
Old 12-11-20, 04:22 PM
  #29  
gugie 
Bike Butcher of Portland
 
gugie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 11,630

Bikes: It's complicated.

Mentioned: 1299 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4677 Post(s)
Liked 5,790 Times in 2,279 Posts
Originally Posted by gthomson
Are all these people from the bike forums? if so, that's really cool
About 4 out of 5 are active members.The ones that aren't are friends of BF members.
__________________
If someone tells you that you have enough bicycles and you don't need any more, stop talking to them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life.
gugie is offline  
Old 12-11-20, 04:32 PM
  #30  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 20,433

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 178 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5888 Post(s)
Liked 3,471 Times in 2,079 Posts
Originally Posted by Trakhak
That's what Maynard Hershon, longtime Velonews contributor (fondly remembered by many for his "Off The Back" column), said when Grant Pedersen asked him the "biggest improvement in cycling?" question. Grant tried to get him to recant, offering to send him a pair of Kucharik Smartwool shorts, sure that he'd change his mind. Hershon replied, "I love you, Grant. Please don't send me any wool shorts."
I grew up and did a ton of riding in the Gulf South (New Orleans). The summers are long, hot, and humid. Lycra was a game changer. So were camelbaks.
bikemig is offline  
Old 12-11-20, 05:33 PM
  #31  
steine13
Full Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: East Lansing, MI
Posts: 273

Bikes: See my albums. I find that listing them here messes up searching.

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 139 Post(s)
Liked 316 Times in 141 Posts
>> Ditto on internet and Bike Forums. Would never have met any of these people:

Agree with gugie...but looking at the pictures, man, that's a pretty sketchy plus

Seriously, though, I was thinking about this a few weeks ago... back in the 80s, 20 years old and getting ready to ditch my motor scooter for a decent bicycle.. I'm checking out the bike shop window, and they've got this beautiful cyclocross bike sitting there, cantilever brakes etc.. I'm thinking this is so cool... but I don't have a clue what I'm looking at.... and nowhere to go to find out.

Today, ten minutes on google and you're up to speed on anything.
Plus, all the stuff I've learned on this forum in the last six months.. just fantastic.

In the aughties, I built a Hybrid into an IGH winter bike with studded tires... vertical dropouts, so I really had to get the cog combination right... internet all the way, I found a spreadsheet for that purpose... I would not have attempted it without the tech support from the online community. How did we live without this?

What's really better today, on a technical level: shifting and braking, even at the lower price points. I'm fine with 2x8 gears, no big hills to climb.
Don't care for brifters, have them on one bike, they work great but too big for my hands... I prefer bar-ends for simplicity.
I like indexing, but no big deal doing without.
My Schwalbe tires ride through glass once a week and no flat in years... that's definitely new..

ABSOLUTELY the lights, no question. Maybe not the most important but the biggest improvement.
Riding all winter long with a bottom bracket dynamo rubbing on the rear tire...making "light" from a little halogen bulb, ugh... I don't miss any of that.
cheers -mathias
steine13 is online now  
Likes For steine13:
Old 12-11-20, 07:14 PM
  #32  
RobbieTunes
Banned.
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 27,199
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 378 Post(s)
Liked 1,409 Times in 909 Posts
The beer is generally better.

I am a converted “lighting” guy. To be seen, mostly.

Pedal systems.

Chain and drivetrain reliability.

Sort and shallow bars. Like me.

Saddles. The old ones didn’t work for me.

Internet as a hard drive. “Seek and ye shall find;” a world market to participate in, on an individual scale.
RobbieTunes is offline  
Likes For RobbieTunes:
Old 12-11-20, 07:16 PM
  #33  
RobbieTunes
Banned.
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 27,199
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 378 Post(s)
Liked 1,409 Times in 909 Posts
Originally Posted by bikemig
I grew up and did a ton of riding in the Gulf South (New Orleans).
That explains a lot.
RobbieTunes is offline  
Likes For RobbieTunes:
Old 12-11-20, 07:18 PM
  #34  
RobbieTunes
Banned.
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 27,199
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 378 Post(s)
Liked 1,409 Times in 909 Posts
Originally Posted by tiger1964
This x1000

If it wasn't for the internet and particularly BF, my bikes would probably be nearly unrideable.
Hold it, they need to be rideable?
RobbieTunes is offline  
Likes For RobbieTunes:
Old 12-11-20, 07:26 PM
  #35  
RobbieTunes
Banned.
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 27,199
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 378 Post(s)
Liked 1,409 Times in 909 Posts
Originally Posted by iab
The weed is so much better than 40 years ago. And legal.
My legs and lungs have not improved from 40 years ago.
Correlation?
RobbieTunes is offline  
Old 12-11-20, 07:46 PM
  #36  
iab
Senior Member
 
iab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NW Burbs, Chicago
Posts: 12,048
Mentioned: 201 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3012 Post(s)
Liked 3,789 Times in 1,406 Posts
Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
Correlation?
Naw. I smoked a ton back then. I tried it recently for pain. Didn't work. But damn.
iab is offline  
Old 12-11-20, 08:22 PM
  #37  
Pompiere
Senior Member
 
Pompiere's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: NW Ohio
Posts: 3,412

Bikes: 1984 Miyata 310, 1986 Schwinn Sierra, 2011 Jamis Quest, 1980 Peugeot TH8 Tandem, 1992 Performance Parabola, 1987 Ross Mt. Hood, 1988 Schwinn LeTour, 1988 Trek 400T, 1981 Fuji S12-S LTD, 197? FW Evans

Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 525 Post(s)
Liked 982 Times in 510 Posts
LED lighting, tires, GPS, fabrics, large insulated water bottles, and helmets. I like riding vintage bikes, but these modern accessories go with me.
Pompiere is offline  
Old 12-11-20, 10:50 PM
  #38  
nlerner
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 17,146
Mentioned: 481 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3804 Post(s)
Liked 6,643 Times in 2,602 Posts
Originally Posted by bikemig
One word: lycra.
Two more: Merino wool. No more itchiness!
nlerner is offline  
Likes For nlerner:
Old 12-12-20, 04:08 AM
  #39  
Miele Man
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 4,624

Bikes: iele Latina, Miele Suprema, Miele Uno LS, Miele Miele Beta, MMTB, Bianchi Model Unknown, Fiori Venezia, Fiori Napoli, VeloSport Adamas AX

Mentioned: 16 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1324 Post(s)
Liked 927 Times in 640 Posts
Originally Posted by gthomson
I'm glad I posted this because as redundant as it seemed, I'm actually surprised at some of the responses. It looks like lighting is the most popular answer which would have never been my guess but then I don't really ride at night, so not really applicable.

Electronics is very helpful and not sure if my Vetta computer would be included in that category since it's a few decades old but it did tell me distance, speed, total KM's etc...but I like tracking and sharing my ride with Strava.

Can't ever say I'll be a fan of lycra but I guess it beats a wool jersey. Despite all the advancements in technology, steel is still awesome to ride.
I love my old steel bicycles. I have one that I converted back in 2001 to Campagnolo 9-speed Mirage/Veloce with Ergo shift/brake levers. To me it's the best of Classic and modern. It's a Columbus SLX frameset. Actually, there's an entire thread somewhere on these forums about such conversions.




The thing I most like about modern stuff are battery lights and batteries. Now you can get a light that lights up the road and the battery lasts a fairly long time and is rechargeable.

Cheers
Miele Man is offline  
Likes For Miele Man:
Old 12-12-20, 07:51 AM
  #40  
bikemig 
Senior Member
 
bikemig's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Middle Earth (aka IA)
Posts: 20,433

Bikes: A bunch of old bikes and a few new ones

Mentioned: 178 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5888 Post(s)
Liked 3,471 Times in 2,079 Posts
Originally Posted by nlerner
Two more: Merino wool. No more itchiness!
Yeah but try wool if riding in a high humidity area like the Gulf South. You'll switch to Lycra and never look back!
bikemig is offline  
Old 12-12-20, 09:57 AM
  #41  
jackbombay
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Portland Oregon
Posts: 996
Mentioned: 7 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 457 Post(s)
Liked 462 Times in 270 Posts
I quite like Brifters, modern tires/wheels, and dual pivot caliper brakes.

I can't quite get into disc brakes on road bikes, I'm not opposed to them, but I don't own any currently and have no plans to own any.
jackbombay is offline  
Old 12-12-20, 10:18 AM
  #42  
Shp4man
Senior Member
 
Shp4man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,046

Bikes: 1989 Schwinn World Sport. 1994 Diamond Back Response Elite MTB. 1964 Schwinn Typhoon. 1974 Bridgestone Sprinter, 2015 Scott Sub 10 Citybike.

Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1688 Post(s)
Liked 84 Times in 37 Posts
In my opinion, the modern cell phone is without question the best advance in cycling. I can deal with old tech otherwise, but instant communication/information is priceless.
Shp4man is offline  
Likes For Shp4man:
Old 12-12-20, 10:29 AM
  #43  
10 Wheels
Galveston County Texas
 
10 Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 33,221

Bikes: 02 GTO, 2011 Magnum

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1349 Post(s)
Liked 1,243 Times in 621 Posts
Originally Posted by Shp4man
In my opinion, the modern cell phone is without question the best advance in cycling. I can deal with old tech otherwise, but instant communication/information is priceless.
Way to many Deaths (Bike riders) caused by Cell Phone use in Autos
__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"

10 Wheels is offline  
Old 12-12-20, 10:33 AM
  #44  
Shp4man
Senior Member
 
Shp4man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: San Diego
Posts: 1,046

Bikes: 1989 Schwinn World Sport. 1994 Diamond Back Response Elite MTB. 1964 Schwinn Typhoon. 1974 Bridgestone Sprinter, 2015 Scott Sub 10 Citybike.

Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1688 Post(s)
Liked 84 Times in 37 Posts
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
Way to many Deaths (Bike riders) caused by Cell Phone use in Autos

That's true, and not just cyclists. The good with the bad, I suppose.
Shp4man is offline  
Old 12-12-20, 11:15 AM
  #45  
sheddle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,072

Bikes: my precious steel boys

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 438 Post(s)
Liked 603 Times in 359 Posts
Originally Posted by Trakhak
That's what Maynard Hershon, longtime Velonews contributor (fondly remembered by many for his "Off The Back" column), said when Grant Pedersen asked him the "biggest improvement in cycling?" question. Grant tried to get him to recant, offering to send him a pair of Kucharik Smartwool shorts, sure that he'd change his mind. Hershon replied, "I love you, Grant. Please don't send me any wool shorts."
I actually have done Grant's thing of wearing sleeved cotton shirts for hot dry weather. Works better than you'd intuitively expect. (there's a reason you see people like landscapers and roofers doing the same thing in the summer) Not touching wool shorts, though.
sheddle is offline  
Old 12-12-20, 11:17 AM
  #46  
sheddle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Seattle
Posts: 1,072

Bikes: my precious steel boys

Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 438 Post(s)
Liked 603 Times in 359 Posts
Originally Posted by Shp4man
In my opinion, the modern cell phone is without question the best advance in cycling. I can deal with old tech otherwise, but instant communication/information is priceless.
On the other hand, it increases the temptation to ride without any way to fix flats and tick off the one guy you know with a pickup truck...
sheddle is offline  
Likes For sheddle:
Old 12-12-20, 11:23 AM
  #47  
10 Wheels
Galveston County Texas
 
10 Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 33,221

Bikes: 02 GTO, 2011 Magnum

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1349 Post(s)
Liked 1,243 Times in 621 Posts
Originally Posted by sheddle
On the other hand, it increases the temptation to ride without any way to fix flats and tick off the one guy you know with a pickup truck...
Or call the wife or girl friend to come and get you.
__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"

10 Wheels is offline  
Old 12-12-20, 11:42 AM
  #48  
noglider 
aka Tom Reingold
 
noglider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 40,498

Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem

Mentioned: 511 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7347 Post(s)
Liked 2,453 Times in 1,430 Posts
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
Or call the wife or girl friend to come and get you.
I did that once when it was raining and the trip proved harder than I expected. She said no!
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog

“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author

Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
noglider is offline  
Likes For noglider:
Old 12-12-20, 11:44 AM
  #49  
10 Wheels
Galveston County Texas
 
10 Wheels's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In The Wind
Posts: 33,221

Bikes: 02 GTO, 2011 Magnum

Mentioned: 19 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1349 Post(s)
Liked 1,243 Times in 621 Posts
Originally Posted by noglider
I did that once when it was raining and the trip proved harder than I expected. She said no!
I have come upon 6 riders waiting for someone to pick them up.
__________________
Fred "The Real Fred"

10 Wheels is offline  
Old 12-13-20, 07:55 PM
  #50  
dmarkun
Slowfoot
 
dmarkun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Reston, VA
Posts: 95

Bikes: 1975 Raleigh International, 1979 Scapin (?), 1980 Trek 715, 1984 SR Maxima, 1993 Bridgestone RB1, 1998 753 Waterford X-12

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 45 Post(s)
Liked 173 Times in 49 Posts
Originally Posted by noglider
I did that once when it was raining and the trip proved harder than I expected. She said no!
Same experience here. But for me it was midnight and snowing. To be fair, I had earlier refused her offer to pick me up from work.

1. Phone/camera/GPS
2. Bright LED lights
3. Socks
dmarkun is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.