Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Singlespeed & Fixed Gear
Reload this Page >

Is stealing a bike ever okay?

Search
Notices
Singlespeed & Fixed Gear "I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

Is stealing a bike ever okay?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 11-15-09, 12:35 PM
  #1  
lot's wife
Bibere venenum in auro
Thread Starter
 
lot's wife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Is stealing a bike ever okay?

Outside of a building where I spend most of my time at my college is an Electra bike that has been locked to the bike rack for about 4 months. It's in the same place, covered in dirt, flat tire, soon to be snowed on.

I've thought about asking about it on craigslist, but figured that would just alert people that there was a bike that is easy to steal. This is one of the few brands of bicycles sold in town. I'm assuming some kid came to school, bought a bike, dropped out, went home, and abandoned it. Either way it seems abandoned.

It's locked with one of those walmart combination cable locks that can be removed in less than five minutes with no tools.

Any opinions about a course of action? Forget about it? Take and donate?
lot's wife is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 12:37 PM
  #2  
pancake4life
Breakfast in America
 
pancake4life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: California
Posts: 379
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Why do you want an Electra bike?
pancake4life is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 12:39 PM
  #3  
hairnet
Fresh Garbage
 
hairnet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 13,190

Bikes: N+1

Mentioned: 21 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 352 Post(s)
Liked 27 Times in 18 Posts
Wasn't there a similar thread?

here it is
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...light=stealing

Last edited by hairnet; 11-15-09 at 12:46 PM.
hairnet is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 12:42 PM
  #4  
Moximitre
dig dig dig
 
Moximitre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Chicago
Posts: 878

Bikes: Full Fendered Bareknuckle, Faggin with 10spd Centaur, 1973 Raleigh 3spd Cruiser.

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
It's only stealing if you get caught.
Moximitre is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 12:46 PM
  #5  
lot's wife
Bibere venenum in auro
Thread Starter
 
lot's wife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Why do you want an Electra bike?
I don't really. Could use it to get around the neighborhood, give it to my girlfriend, it's got a basket that could fit a six pack from the corner store. It just seems like a shame for any bike in good condition to go to **** because some kid with money to waste decided it wasn't worth his time.
lot's wife is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 12:48 PM
  #6  
acoustophile
Full Member
 
acoustophile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
Posts: 231
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 64 Post(s)
Liked 151 Times in 59 Posts
If it's locked up in the same spot for weeks/months and is just wasting away, I'd consider it fair game.
acoustophile is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 12:58 PM
  #7  
coffeecake
Blocking your fire exits
 
coffeecake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 641
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Or you could wait until campus security comes around, cuts the locks off, and then has their bike auction. The owner might suddenly decide that he/she wants it if you help yourself, and that hassle is not worth a free bike, to me. Doesn't matter how long it's sitting there, it's still their bike. Possession is nine-tenths of the law, and all that.

Also, it's an Electra.

Last edited by coffeecake; 11-15-09 at 01:08 PM.
coffeecake is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 01:05 PM
  #8  
LoRoK
a.k.a. QUADZILLA
 
LoRoK's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Denver
Posts: 1,505

Bikes: Super Pista, Basso, Big Dummy

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Don't steal bikes bro.
LoRoK is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 01:38 PM
  #9  
Leukybear 
THE STUFFED
 
Leukybear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 12,671

Bikes: R. Sachs Road; EAI Bareknuckle; S-Works Enduro

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 361 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 20 Times in 17 Posts
Try to pull some strings with campus security.... Like run into an officer and tell them about the bike and your concerns and slowly try to convince them to give you the bike after like a waiting period or something.....
Leukybear is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 01:40 PM
  #10  
dbgray21
my quads hurt...
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: 703
Posts: 197

Bikes: 2010 langster, 2009 fuse 2, 2009 transition

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
there's a special place in hell for child molesters and bike thieves...
dbgray21 is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 01:43 PM
  #11  
elTwitcho
Live without dead time
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Toronto
Posts: 2,136
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Unless it's your bike that you are stealing back, no it's never ok. People who steal bikes are bike thieves, and just because you want it doesn't make you any different from them. In fact it makes you a bike thief
elTwitcho is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 01:43 PM
  #12  
Leukybear 
THE STUFFED
 
Leukybear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: San Francisco, CA
Posts: 12,671

Bikes: R. Sachs Road; EAI Bareknuckle; S-Works Enduro

Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 361 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 20 Times in 17 Posts
Originally Posted by dbgray21
there's a special place in hell for child molesters and bike thieves...
Satan's bed. I heard he goes both ways.
Leukybear is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 01:55 PM
  #13  
lot's wife
Bibere venenum in auro
Thread Starter
 
lot's wife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 20
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Try to pull some strings with campus security.... Like run into an officer and tell them about the bike and your concerns and slowly try to convince them to give you the bike after like a waiting period or something.....
there's a special place in hell for child molesters and bike thieves...
I hate bike thieves. I emailed the campus police to see how they deal with this sort of thing, but there are scavenged bikes in varying states of decay that I'm reasonable sure have been locked to racks for a couple of years.

I really hate to see a usable bike not be used, but I guess I don't want to cross the line to "bike thief."
lot's wife is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 02:09 PM
  #14  
dayvan cowboy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Athens, Ohio
Posts: 1,568

Bikes: Fuji Track, Half built 70s Azuki

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
there have been two bikes i've considered stealing. one was a lemond cross bike that was locked just by the QR front wheel. I saw it for the first time last November, and it was still locked to the same spot at the end of january(no idea how it lasted that long). the other was just an old road bike(i needed a geared bike at the time) that was in horrible shape and locked outside the library at my school for 4 months. They both eventually disappeared.
dayvan cowboy is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 03:46 PM
  #15  
scruggle
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 188
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Is it stealing? I don't know, what do you call it when you take something that isn't yours?
scruggle is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 04:55 PM
  #16  
Scrodzilla
Your cog is slipping.
 
Scrodzilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
Mentioned: 41 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 640 Post(s)
Liked 100 Times in 58 Posts
There was a GTB U-locked to a pole in my town for months and months. Stuff began disappearing from it and before long, it was just a frame, fork, bottom bracket, headset and seatpost clamp. Finally, I approached a cop downtown who was writing a ticket right near where the frame was laying on the ground still locked to the pole and asked him what the deal was. He chuckled and told me that if I could get it off the pole, I could have it. He proceeded to give me his name and info in case anyone tried to stop me or whatever. Later that day, my friend went down there to get it and he's been riding it ever since.

It wasn't exactly stealing, though...

Last edited by Scrodzilla; 11-15-09 at 05:26 PM.
Scrodzilla is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 05:07 PM
  #17  
idiq
IRL Banhammer
 
idiq's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: RVA
Posts: 664
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The key here is determining if it's abandoned or not.

People who call you a thief assume that it's not abandoned. If it's abandoned it seems that the previous owner doesn't claim property rights on it anymore (in a negative sense), and at that, it's yours for the taking.

Stealing involves taking someone's property that's not yours and claiming it as your own... in this case, since you're asking the question if it's legitimate to steal the bike, you seem to say that it's not abandoned. By virtue of your own question, yes, taking the electra would be wrong.
__________________
saddle sores bike club | prepare to be rode
idiq is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 05:07 PM
  #18  
lightningcow
Senior Member
 
lightningcow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 98

Bikes: Modded Trek 4500

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Abandoned property is considered free game until the original owner comes looking to get it back. You would have to give the property back given they can prove it was theirs. IMO if you are sure it is abandoned and you've asked the campus pd about it, then it would be fine. I've seen bikes in the same spot for years at my old school...the campus didn't even move them or anything.
lightningcow is offline  
Old 11-15-09, 05:09 PM
  #19  
idiq
IRL Banhammer
 
idiq's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: RVA
Posts: 664
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
in b4 lightningcow
__________________
saddle sores bike club | prepare to be rode
idiq is offline  
Old 11-16-09, 03:40 AM
  #20  
Astronomical
Double Agent
 
Astronomical's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: your girl's bed
Posts: 1,187

Bikes: Fly Pantera, GT GTB

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
stealing a bike is always okay.
Astronomical is offline  
Old 11-16-09, 03:57 AM
  #21  
markjenn
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,160
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 154 Post(s)
Liked 14 Times in 11 Posts
Originally Posted by acoustophile
If it's locked up in the same spot for weeks/months and is just wasting away, I'd consider it fair game.
And who gets to decide what the appropriate period of abandonment is? The thief?

- Mark
markjenn is offline  
Old 11-16-09, 08:09 AM
  #22  
wearyourtruth
Ride for Life
 
wearyourtruth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Houston
Posts: 2,740
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
if you steal the bike you will turn into a pillar of salt
wearyourtruth is offline  
Old 11-16-09, 08:21 AM
  #23  
bones_mcbones
Banned.
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Winnipeg
Posts: 2,975

Bikes: Fiori Fixie powder blue w/ granny bars

Mentioned: 89 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6495 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 29 Times in 28 Posts
Steal IT!!!! First maybe put a note on it for a couple of days to see if it is truly abandon. If it is, go nutzo on that mofo!
bones_mcbones is offline  
Old 11-16-09, 09:50 AM
  #24  
ianjk
:)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: duluth
Posts: 3,391

Bikes: '07 Pista, '09 Fantom Cross Uno, '8? Miyata, '67 Stingray, '0? Zoo mod trials, Tallbike, Chopper, '73 Schwinn Collegiate, '67 Triumph Chopper, '69 CB350, '58 BSA Spitfire, '73 CB450

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Stealing is stealing. Once it is at the curb, in the trash, at the dump, it is then fair game.

Again, special spot in hell for bike thieves.
ianjk is offline  
Old 11-16-09, 11:59 AM
  #25  
atlascomplete
Avocado.
 
atlascomplete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Reno/Tahoe
Posts: 92

Bikes: 2007 Bianchi Pista, 2009 Leader 721TR, 1980's Schwinn World Sport

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
There was a bike parked in front of the dorm with flats. It's been there all summer and even had a tag on it saying it was going to be taken to the dump if no-one picked it up, so my girlfriend decided to take it instead of it being taken to the dump.
atlascomplete is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.