Question for bivy sack users
#26
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All that said... For most people the little bigger tarp (like the Sea2Summit Escapist M 6'6" x 8'6") may be worth the extra weight and bulk. It allows the tarp to be pitched higher. It allows more room under the tarp. It is a bit more insurance of staying dry and keeping gear dry. At 12 ounces most will find that a good compromise. That doesn't mean some folks can't get by with a small tarp, a tiny tarp, or even no tarp. I did fine with a tiny tarp that only covered the upper half of my bivy on at least one trip and was okay, but it probably was more trouble than it was worth to save 7 or 8 ounces. I could in a pinch cover the opening of my bivy with my wind shirt to shed rain, but that is pretty spartan. I just might go there on a trip where I figured the chance of rain was near zero.
The in between sized Integral Designs Siltarp 1 is a fairly reasonable compromise for the more weight conscious, but not completely weight obsessed.
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When it isn't buggy, I typically have a range of sleeping arrangements depending on the temperature. I often go through them as it gets colder through the night. I might start out sleeping on top of the sleeping bag and bivy. If it gets chilly I drape the sleeping bag over myself lie a quilt. I get in the bag if it get colder. I zip up as it get colder. I pull the hood drawstring tighter as it gets colder, but always breathe through the opening. If it isn't buggy, windy, or really cold I may not bother to get in the bivy. I often may not bother to pitch the tarp either. If I get unexpected rain when I didn't pitch the tarp I just pull it over myself and my gear. It depends of where I am and what the season is, some trips I may pitch the tarp every night and some not at all.
BTW, just to be clear... In my case I am referring to minimal bivys with no hoops. My Borah Side zipper ultralight bivy is 7 ounces and my Ti Goat Ptarmigan Bug Bivy is 5.3 ounces. The bivys with hoops and what not, often weighing 2 pounds or more are a different animal. Personally if going there I go a step further and go with a tarp tent or even something like my Eureka Spitfire 1 (2 pounds 9 ounces) which I use when I go heavier (which I don't often do these days).
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Are snakes, spiders, leaches and other bugs a large concern while inside of a bivy?
Yeah. on a warm night. In a river valley crawling with water moccasins and copper heads, and ticks, and mosquitoes, I decided on arriving at a camping area well after dark to have a flop in the bivy I was carrying in addition to a hammock and tarp rather than an open lean to or ride fifty or so miles out of my way for that no brainer motel. Cause lets never try new stuff on a three day trip, right?
Honestly, a few years ago I put to much detail into a question that basically was about how people who do tour using bivys keep them clean. Never used one before, tried it, and have since experienced that learning curve thing that lets me enjoy using it.
Honestly, a few years ago I put to much detail into a question that basically was about how people who do tour using bivys keep them clean. Never used one before, tried it, and have since experienced that learning curve thing that lets me enjoy using it.
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I've slept in it from 90+ to -42F. It is gortex and half mesh. I can flip the cover down to my waist. On hot nights I lay on top of my sleeping bag until I get chilly and then slip into it.
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The whole point of being enclosed is to keep them out. You might check for the dreaded Copper Headed Rattlebacks outside the exit area in the morning, but no more so than you would in a larger tent.