Pinarello . . .
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Pinarello . . .
Had heard of Pinarello brand tandem being available in the US but had not spotted one until today.
Rode Bike Patrol (on my single) for the local Tour of the Tucson Mountains. At the finish line was a duo in matching Texas flag jerseys with a flashy blue/white Pinarello tandem.
Hard to ignore the mega size Pinarello decals. Being curious (OK, nosy!), decided to take a quick peek. Rolf wheels, Sugino crank, XTR stuff, Avid discs, alu fork.
Was told by owner it was superlight Scandium tubing, and that the tandem weighed 28 lbs.
Told him we rode a tandem in that weight range and could I heft it/pick it up. The very firm answer was 'No'.
Oops, my bad . . .
Internet lists that for as low as $4,699 (and up + shipping) you can indeed purchase a Pinarello 4-Power 2-seater with a claimed weight of 'frame only' of 3.97 lbs! Available in one-size and color as stated, components not as pictured.
Been around tandems long enough that a sub-4-lbs alu-type frame is not quite a reality yet.
Compared to Santana's Scandium at $7295, a Pinarello @ $4699 would indeed be a hell of a bargain.
But before you get too x-cited . . . suggest you ride both Scandiums before plunkin' your money down!
Spotted about a dozen tandems at today's event from Diamondback to Cannondale, KHS, Burley, Co-Motion . . . and oh, yes, a Pinarello!
Pedal on TWOgether!
Rudy and Kay/zonatandem
Rode Bike Patrol (on my single) for the local Tour of the Tucson Mountains. At the finish line was a duo in matching Texas flag jerseys with a flashy blue/white Pinarello tandem.
Hard to ignore the mega size Pinarello decals. Being curious (OK, nosy!), decided to take a quick peek. Rolf wheels, Sugino crank, XTR stuff, Avid discs, alu fork.
Was told by owner it was superlight Scandium tubing, and that the tandem weighed 28 lbs.
Told him we rode a tandem in that weight range and could I heft it/pick it up. The very firm answer was 'No'.
Oops, my bad . . .
Internet lists that for as low as $4,699 (and up + shipping) you can indeed purchase a Pinarello 4-Power 2-seater with a claimed weight of 'frame only' of 3.97 lbs! Available in one-size and color as stated, components not as pictured.
Been around tandems long enough that a sub-4-lbs alu-type frame is not quite a reality yet.
Compared to Santana's Scandium at $7295, a Pinarello @ $4699 would indeed be a hell of a bargain.
But before you get too x-cited . . . suggest you ride both Scandiums before plunkin' your money down!
Spotted about a dozen tandems at today's event from Diamondback to Cannondale, KHS, Burley, Co-Motion . . . and oh, yes, a Pinarello!
Pedal on TWOgether!
Rudy and Kay/zonatandem
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I've seen this model in the Toronto Bike Show last March. The one thing I noticed that it had the disk brake specific Shimano Deore FH-M525 rear hub. I'm wondering if it's just the regular Deore respaced 145mm.
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Local dealer showed me it in the brochure. I made nice noises as the Pinarello graphic design department did a good job.
However in my view it's not a serious offering, mainly because it only comes in one size. Also I'd guess that the stoker area is a bit short based on the limited dimensions I've seen. Better IMO to get a Cannondale or Trek in a tried and tested design in a size that fits you for less money.
All that said I would really like to see a Pinarello carbon tandem as I think they could build a good one.
However in my view it's not a serious offering, mainly because it only comes in one size. Also I'd guess that the stoker area is a bit short based on the limited dimensions I've seen. Better IMO to get a Cannondale or Trek in a tried and tested design in a size that fits you for less money.
All that said I would really like to see a Pinarello carbon tandem as I think they could build a good one.
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Saw this at the 2006 Milan Show:
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What, no warped forks and seat stays?
I'm waiting for the "Prince" Tandem to come out.
I'm waiting for the "Prince" Tandem to come out.
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That's exactly as the twicer we saw last Sunday . . . but a sub 4-lb frame?
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There's a pop-culture expression harkening back to the beginning of the end of the Happy Days sitcom that seems quite apropos for Pinarello's 4Power tandem venture:
Good grief... at least they could have given it racing geometry instead of touring-length stays and all of the other trappings of run-of-the-mill general purpose tandem frame sporting garish graphics that embodies nothing worthwhile for which Pinarello is renown.
Good grief... at least they could have given it racing geometry instead of touring-length stays and all of the other trappings of run-of-the-mill general purpose tandem frame sporting garish graphics that embodies nothing worthwhile for which Pinarello is renown.
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I kind of like the looks of it.......it has a little bit of that classic 60's -70's Italian look going for it and it is a twicer...what's not to like?.....then again my stoker says I've never had much taste for the finer things..so I just pedal.
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Why was that? Do people not want you to touch their bike, or are they afraid that you're going to think it weighs more than they claimed?
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According to the ad below, the frame weighs in at 6.55lbs.
https://www.precisiontandems.com/cat_files/pinarello.htm
https://www.precisiontandems.com/cat_files/pinarello.htm
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Wait! I was under the impression that Santana is the only tandem manufacturer entitled to make over the top claims!
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I have owned and raced this tandem since 2007. It's geometry has done us well with at least 25 Double Centuries (innumerable centuries) and 3 Furnace Creek/Silver State 508's. Saturday March 9th we will do another Double Century my 56th and my stoker's 40th. It may not have classic race geometry as TandemGeek states but I have successfully captured quite a few KOM's on Strava, not intentionally of course, but just from the pure joy of having fun going fast down a twisty mountain. What would be race geometry for a tandem? I am considering having LandShark make me a tandem with couplings and would like to hear what changes to the Pinarello 4Power tandem would be suggested.
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I stumbled upon this thread looking for the frame weight of my Pinarello tandem as I am requesting spec weights from LandShark for a new tandem with couplings. The next time I do a complete tear down I could weigh mine and put this issue to rest. I just haven't ever weighed the naked frame in my previous overhauls.
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For a TT - as little as you can have in the middle and parallel tubes - and longer to flatten the stoker.
For a tandem stage race, general purpose pac riding, that (your picture) geometry is good. It depends a lot on frame material. New carbon / oversized tube frames can do without a diag of any kind. But shorter and stiff fork. You likely will be out of the saddle sprinting. I prefer same side drive for the sync chain. It just handles the power better. Electronic rear shifting makes a huge difference. I'm ridding alloy now, but have to say, I still like the spring and snap of my older steel bikes even if they were pounds heavier.
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you ... 'stumbled' across a 10 year dead thread? I got suspicious when I saw TandemGeek as one of the contributors ... I'll save my efforts for a fresher topic but I can't help wondering why the weight of a frame matters when it is impossible to ride a frame without its running gear.
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you ... 'stumbled' across a 10 year dead thread? I got suspicious when I saw TandemGeek as one of the contributors ... I'll save my efforts for a fresher topic but I can't help wondering why the weight of a frame matters when it is impossible to ride a frame without its running gear.
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