The Horror: Junk Build, High-End-Hatchet job, Frankenbike Challenge Extravaganza
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I've been pondering names for my Kline. Swine-Kline? Any other suggestions ?
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And horror has many faces: mashup of parts, Campy + Shimano, rust, oxidizing, bad paint, chunky components, sloping top tubes, dare I say (gasp) unicrowns!
Oooh! I just had an epiphany! Time to search the garage to see if I have a unicrown fork for the Paramount. Better if it is even longer than necessary, so it would then slope the top tube
If anyone needs some assistance with their build, let this thread read more like an instruction manual for you: C&V Pet Peeves
Oooh! I just had an epiphany! Time to search the garage to see if I have a unicrown fork for the Paramount. Better if it is even longer than necessary, so it would then slope the top tube
If anyone needs some assistance with their build, let this thread read more like an instruction manual for you: C&V Pet Peeves
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When less = more, go for 24"!
(although even I would be silly not to admit that there is a brutal beauty to that concoction you've got right there. The fact that the top tube is perfectly level with such horrendously mis-matched wheels is poetry)
(although even I would be silly not to admit that there is a brutal beauty to that concoction you've got right there. The fact that the top tube is perfectly level with such horrendously mis-matched wheels is poetry)
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I put about 15k miles on that cf frame before I realized how good steel is. All the parts went to my Tommasini and this one sat. During the forced covid break I decided to repaint it. Removing the paint revealed a very thin weak spot in the downtube that probably explains the flex I was feeling when riding. Decided to have some ugly fun with it before killing it. I will say that I think cf is pretty dang tough. After cutting halfway through the tubes, I had a hell of a time trying to bend/tear/break it apart.
Bummer. Can't even get wind chimes out of the remains.
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Okay! droppedandlost ’s post inspired me to check out and see what I could make do for a fork for the Crapamount frame.
At first I tried a suspension fork, since the horror factor is just too good to pass up. Unfortunately (and we all know this already) the 1 1/8” fork steerer doesn’t play nicely with the 1” headtube. Still, lots of promise here for a 1” suspension fork, hopefully from something like a Magna. I’m not discounting this as a serious option!
Next, I have this garbage Azuki that I grabbed from the scrap pile at the co-op that I used for brazing practice. It has a decent donor fork - green paint, some corrosion! Would look terrible on the Paramount! But…it still is just a little to proper. Nice fork crown…it even has matching chrome socks! No no…such a thing will never do.
Next up…some random Tange fork from the 80s. Hmmm! Wrong decade, AND it’s Japanese! But wait…Schwinn had that whole Japanese connection and, quite honestly, it looks stunning on this bike!
WRONG!!! That will never work!
Lastly…I remembered that convo in the ‘pet peeves’ thread about unicrowns. I looked up in the rafters, and what do I find but my old unicrown fork from my ‘87 Ironman Expert! In Miami Vice pink nonetheless!
By george I think we’ve got ourselves a winner on our hands!
Welcome to the first 1972 Nervex-lugged unicrown’d Paramount. ‘You’ve just been unicrown’d!!’
Seeing such a ‘hideous monstrosity’ next to those lugs…brings a tear (of joy) to my eye.
The best part about this is that the Ironman, like the Paramount, is likewise another loved and revered bike amongst C&V riders, so there is a whole other level of wrong going on here, as if the owner/build of such a mongrel would sort of have to be a ‘bike guy’ to select this fork, which is the makes it almost too perfect for words. The levels of cognitive dissonance for those are otherworldly, which does nicely with our October Halloween-themed horror show.
The missing punchline?
I still have the original Paramount fork bahahahaha
At first I tried a suspension fork, since the horror factor is just too good to pass up. Unfortunately (and we all know this already) the 1 1/8” fork steerer doesn’t play nicely with the 1” headtube. Still, lots of promise here for a 1” suspension fork, hopefully from something like a Magna. I’m not discounting this as a serious option!
Next, I have this garbage Azuki that I grabbed from the scrap pile at the co-op that I used for brazing practice. It has a decent donor fork - green paint, some corrosion! Would look terrible on the Paramount! But…it still is just a little to proper. Nice fork crown…it even has matching chrome socks! No no…such a thing will never do.
Next up…some random Tange fork from the 80s. Hmmm! Wrong decade, AND it’s Japanese! But wait…Schwinn had that whole Japanese connection and, quite honestly, it looks stunning on this bike!
WRONG!!! That will never work!
Lastly…I remembered that convo in the ‘pet peeves’ thread about unicrowns. I looked up in the rafters, and what do I find but my old unicrown fork from my ‘87 Ironman Expert! In Miami Vice pink nonetheless!
By george I think we’ve got ourselves a winner on our hands!
Welcome to the first 1972 Nervex-lugged unicrown’d Paramount. ‘You’ve just been unicrown’d!!’
Seeing such a ‘hideous monstrosity’ next to those lugs…brings a tear (of joy) to my eye.
The best part about this is that the Ironman, like the Paramount, is likewise another loved and revered bike amongst C&V riders, so there is a whole other level of wrong going on here, as if the owner/build of such a mongrel would sort of have to be a ‘bike guy’ to select this fork, which is the makes it almost too perfect for words. The levels of cognitive dissonance for those are otherworldly, which does nicely with our October Halloween-themed horror show.
The missing punchline?
I still have the original Paramount fork bahahahaha
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I have decided on a build idea. For Ben and those who think my idea of lower end parts is very old Campy installed this will be a bit of a change. I will put some eclectic items on the Ochsner that were not exactly destined for the frame as it was designed by the Ochsner family. Anyone who knew Othon II knew he was the biggest importer of Campy parts to the US, so he wanted those parts for his frames. I shall commit the blasphemy of defiling the Ochsner frame with non-Campy parts. And now the fun begins... Smiles, MH
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Udder perfection
For those having a cow, the purple fork brings tears to me eyes...might improve the handling. Might want to check the trail. Moo-vin‘ on up!
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Jdawg,
There is an ice cream shop in Cloverdale, IN called the purple cow. Perhaps that is what you had in mind after seeing the purple fork. Smiles, Dave #3
There is an ice cream shop in Cloverdale, IN called the purple cow. Perhaps that is what you had in mind after seeing the purple fork. Smiles, Dave #3
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Not just "what's the story," but what's next? I can see cadging the parts from a Roubaix, because that is a pretty nice set of parts, even with the lack of Campy. Is there actually a way to rejoin those carefully separated segments to make something with additional functionality? longer stays? lower trail? luggage racks? Are a Roubaix Rando or a Roubaix Rinko possible?
And why dismember a poor, wayward, starving athlete in the first place, who just wandered into a barn to nap during a long day ride? Plus, what's the utility? We know carbon fiber layups can depend on the integrity of the embedded fibers to maintain functional structure over time and usage, but to strip the finish, loads of fibers must have been compromised. And they're not even heavy enough to make decent paperweights!
And why dismember a poor, wayward, starving athlete in the first place, who just wandered into a barn to nap during a long day ride? Plus, what's the utility? We know carbon fiber layups can depend on the integrity of the embedded fibers to maintain functional structure over time and usage, but to strip the finish, loads of fibers must have been compromised. And they're not even heavy enough to make decent paperweights!
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I never thought I'd get to post this bike in this build in this group - but I'm not going to pass up the opportunity so I am claiming that my mostly regular rider, which I do love dearly, kinda does fit the theme we got going here. Thanks...
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Thats no hatchet job! That’s gorgeous!
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Thanks! It does ride great but I figured it might qualify because it is a “horror show” based on what many c&v members get worked up about sometimes….
1. Aluminum frame: Not steel, not real and no lugs.
2 126mm spacing with a 130 hub. No ability to coldest or use twine to align. Should asplode any minute now…..
3. Parts parts from 4 different decades.
4. No Campagnolo.
5. Drops angled slightly upward
6. Index shifting AND brifters
7. No toe clips or straps, no clip-less and no bmx style platform pedal.
9. Rubberized was bar tape
10. Not a “gruppo” in sight!
Scary stuff!!!!!
1. Aluminum frame: Not steel, not real and no lugs.
2 126mm spacing with a 130 hub. No ability to coldest or use twine to align. Should asplode any minute now…..
3. Parts parts from 4 different decades.
4. No Campagnolo.
5. Drops angled slightly upward
6. Index shifting AND brifters
7. No toe clips or straps, no clip-less and no bmx style platform pedal.
9. Rubberized was bar tape
10. Not a “gruppo” in sight!
Scary stuff!!!!!
09-05-23, 06:01 AM
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Ok, beautiful! What is that frame? is it originally a pista?
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AdventureManCO I had planned to offer my FrankenKline fork for your Crapamount since it is a 1" model. But it does look as if you have this component covered.
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Why is there no ability to use twine to check the alignment? There's no big efforts of muscular heave and coordination, in which your frame supports may asplode. It's just tying a piece of string to one dropout, looping it up around the head tube and back to the other dropout, and tying it about as tight as a shoelace. Then you look at each string and its gap to the seat tube, and see how closely they match.
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Sorry, wasn't aware it's an Al frame.
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how about a Colnago Precisa fork on a rockhopper
that's gotta make somebody's eye twitch
that's gotta make somebody's eye twitch
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Got the old Jeunet working good brakes and all just seems to nice looking for a Framkenbike so I'm thinking of adding a bit of low key horror to it by taking the nice wide range vintage correct double crank and VGT which work great off the bike. Then putting an extreme ergo egg shaped rings ugly Suntour Edge triple crank with a cheapo modern mega range DR can't decide which is more horrific the the Allivo mega cog or the Sram X-4. I figure I can always change stuff back and some rattle can green or orange paint would be a nice touch on these parts.
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AdventureManCO I had planned to offer my FrankenKline fork for your Crapamount since it is a 1" model. But it does look as if you have this component covered.
And you could put the Paramount fork on the Klein? We might have the makings of something beautiful x2.
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