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Old 04-30-19, 11:55 AM
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The OP needs new material.

But I have some time to kill so I will play....

What I hate the most are Freds on MUPs, especially ones who think they are strong riders:


https://www.bikeforums.net/general-c...ke-me-mup.html

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Old 04-30-19, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Somehow, I don't think this has been the response OP had expected.
your probably correct but this is what he should have known he would get.


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Old 04-30-19, 02:32 PM
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maybe it's time to explore unpaved rail trails. they're pretty darn fun & while they still have shared users, they tend to be less crowded. also, way more scenic
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Old 04-30-19, 02:40 PM
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I love to ride MUP’s. Great coffee shops along the way, plenty of places to stop. Ya just need a bell and a 22 lb steel bike instead of a 17 lb aero bike. Leave the blinkie on low solid and don’t think about becoming KOM of the MUP for the day.
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Old 04-30-19, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
maybe it's time to explore unpaved rail trails. they're pretty darn fun & while they still have shared users, they tend to be less crowded. also, way more scenic
Nice advice, but a few months back, OP ran a series of posts, each whinier than the one before, about how he couldn't train properly on MUPs because of all of the others in his way, and how he thought they should be able to group train on such paths. Somehow, I don't think he's looking for scenic, fun, unpaved. He wants his own private road.
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Old 04-30-19, 02:52 PM
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Velodromes supply that..
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Old 04-30-19, 02:59 PM
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No self-respecting serious road cyclist would be caught dead on an urban MUP.
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Old 04-30-19, 03:29 PM
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My Carbon Steed, my Armoured suit of Lycra, my hair blowing in the wind. Yes I am King of the MUP.
I must add that the MUP in my Kingdom is not 3 but 3 and 1 half miles long. I ride it’s entire length slow and majestically so all have a chance to adore me.
Retractable leashes be dammed for I am King.

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Old 04-30-19, 03:51 PM
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I don't have any gripes with MUPS, they are there for all people to enjoy and not just for cyclists.
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Old 04-30-19, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
The OP needs new material.
I figured there might be recycling of posts under the prior user name (very similar, terminated 03/15/18) but I can't seem to successfully search for posts. Nevertheless, I suggest OP find a group to ride with. When they kick his butt, as my group did to me today, there will be no energy to worry about what's happening on the MUP.
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Old 04-30-19, 04:17 PM
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I think we made our point.

How about we invoke a mercy rule?
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Old 04-30-19, 08:46 PM
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So the MUP is too crowded? Then umm, don't ride it when it's crowded. A 4:30am start is pretty much a guarantee you'll have the whole thing to yourself.

I didn't see anyone else on a bike, and didn't see another person until I was almost home.



Not that the SART is ever particularly crowded anyway. I have no complaints. Well, that's not true. If the "homeless" encampments could break their glass bottles down in the riverbed instead of on the trail itself, that would be pretty great.
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Old 04-30-19, 11:15 PM
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I enjoy riding the greenways (don't call them MUPs around here). Yeah, they can get a little hectic on the weekends, especially this time of year. I find myself getting a little aggravated with the entire adult family spread out across the path, or the 30' leash across it. Things that should be just common sense things for most adults. But, oh well. It still beats the alternative, to me. I never get upset with the kids. They're children for goodness sake's! It brightens my day just to see them having fun.

The adults that don't use good judgement can sometimes get under your skin, but you just deal with it and go on. Most are always friendly, even if they aren't using their head. Really, the thing that bugs me the most are runners or walkers with earbuds. Especially the ones that don't know which side to be on, or worse yet ...don't have a side. Just waddles along down the middle while unable to hear anything going on around them. You think they are ignoring your warnings until you get close enough to see that their ears are crammed full. Another dead horse I know, but of all the things one could complain about ...that one gets my "here's your sign" award.

I suppose what it comes down to is... you just have to understand that we cyclists aren't entitled. The trail is not just for us, it's there for everyone. Just like motorists shouldn't feel entitled to the road over cyclists.

I'll overlook any of the little nuances when I can be the fastest cat on the road. I like not having to worry about something coming up behind me being faster ...and much larger. While texting no less...
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Old 05-01-19, 04:38 PM
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The only real complaint is people who don't know understand the meaning of a MUP. If you don't like it and don't need to be on it, then don't worry about it. If you need to be on it just know how to share it with other people, it isn't hard. Things like not weaving around or taking wrong lanes or flashing lights at people like a discotheque and also just attempting to be friendly are not that hard.
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Old 05-02-19, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DrIsotope View Post
So the MUP is too crowded? Then umm, don't ride it when it's crowded. A 4:30am start is pretty much a guarantee you'll have the whole thing to yourself.

I didn't see anyone else on a bike, and didn't see another person until I was almost home.
+1. I didn't see anyone during this 25 mile MUP ride that started pre-dawn. I did, however, see a giant porcupine. He wasn't on a leash and didn't wave.

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Old 05-02-19, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
+1. I didn't see anyone during this 25 mile MUP ride that started pre-dawn. I did, however, see a giant porcupine. He wasn't on a leash and didn't wave.

If I'm on a MUP before 8 a.m. on the weekends pretty much anywhere, there's sparse traffic on it. Before 7 a.m., just a very few joggers and cyclists, and virtually no one dawdling.

Had a porcupine and a couple of deer encounters on a MUP last fall. All quite pleasant, but they did seem confused when I told them I'd be passing on the left.
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Old 05-02-19, 06:50 AM
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Damn, a porcupine would be awesome. This is SoCal, so basically a desert. Beyond the occasional coyote, it's just an endless stream of rabbits, ground squirrels, roadrunners, and snakes. Which I guess is good, there's nothing I really even need to worry about running into.

I did get raced by a coyote once. He stayed parallel to me for a good quarter of a mile, then turned on the jets, turned a route toward me, and crossed about 20 feet in front of me moving like a blur. Dogs be dogs, I guess.
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Old 05-02-19, 06:57 AM
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"Some day a real rain will come, and wash away all the dog walkers, joggers, smiling well-adjusted nuclear families, fake fitness dweebs, blacked-out riders, and head to toe high vis with three tail lights scumbags."
...you talkin' to ME?
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Old 05-02-19, 06:58 AM
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Beyond the occasional coyote, it's just an endless stream of rabbits, ground squirrels, roadrunners, and snakes. Which I guess is good, there's nothing I really even need to worry about running into.
A few days before I saw Mr. Porcupine I let out a sneeze while riding a different MUP. Heard some crashing in the brush along the trail and then a splash. Nearly wiped out while stopping to get out my camera. Was able to snap a photo just before he disappeared into the grass on the other side of the creek.

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Old 05-02-19, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by CAT7RDR View Post
No self-respecting serious road cyclist would be caught dead on an urban MUP.
True in my case because no one is fast enough to catch me. Period.
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Old 05-02-19, 07:02 AM
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You know how I know that pic wasn't taken anywhere near here? Well, there's a bear in it, an appreciable amount of water, and everything is green. It's May now, so we're nearly out of water and green, replaced by brown 'n hot.

Also, a few inches above the bear and to the left, I think you may have captured a sasquatch on film.
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I saw a baby wabbit the others nite, as it was nearly dark! looked down to see a little furry thing, the size of a chimp monk, but it was hopping along the edge of the paved MUP like a wabbit!
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Old 05-02-19, 07:06 AM
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You know how I know that pic wasn't taken anywhere near here? Well, there's a bear in it, an appreciable amount of water, and everything is green. It's May now, so we're nearly out of water and green, replaced by brown 'n hot.

Also, a few inches above the bear and to the left, I think you may have captured a sasquatch on film.
Zoomed in view:

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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
True in my case because no one is fast enough to catch me. Period.
Dude, I can beat you with my single speed.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
+giant porcupine
I saw one that had died by the side of a road in NH a cpl years back. I pulled over to take it's photo. I never reached out to touched it but I wound up getting stuck by a cpl quills anyway! as if they just shot out at me! dam that thing was still dangerous. impressive defense mechanism!
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