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Old 04-29-19, 07:21 AM
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Yet another rural Georgia dog bite

Another rider bit on a ride west of Atlanta this weekend.

The dog is very aggressive and had been reported to animal control several times. Squirting this dog with a water bottle or telling it "No" in a stern voice was useless with this inbred and this time it got a rider in the ankle. The rider was able to return to ride start under his own power.

County animal control said hat that the dog would be impounded for ten days if it could be located. The owner will have to pay a $150 fee to have the dog returned.


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I think they should impound the owner.
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Old 04-29-19, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mixteup View Post
I think they should impound the owner.
+1. My Ex-GF of nearly 8 years is recovering from the effects of a recent closed head injury that included brain bleeding caused when a dog ran off a property and took her out from behind while she was descending at about 20 mph.
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I think it's time to call Wade Blasingame:

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Old 04-29-19, 07:48 AM
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I'm going to be spending more time riding around rural FL in the near future. The thing I most dread is loose dogs.
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I hit a dog once.

I'm only posting the Strava link because it's hard to get your photos out of Strava on mobile.

In anycase, I was keeping to the right as proper, some pedestrian lady was walking towads me, keeping to her right, as proper. Then this unleashed dog eye-balled me & lunged from the brush to my right. I moved to the center to avoid the poor guy, but it was already too late & he sank his teeth into my front tire.

I damn near cut that thing in half. It scampered to it's owner, very obviously broken in the middle somehow. The yelling match that ensued when I picked my self up off the ground was for the ages, let me tell you. "shared path this, shared path that" she screamed at me between obscenities. I yelled back "Taking up the left, the right, & the middle doesn't seem much like sharing the ephing path! Leash your ephing dog! Rules apply to you too, Lady!"

Of course, it was all my fault & her negligence and inability to obey the leash laws had nothing to do with the broken dog.

Dogs are property under State law. Since I'm the actual human that suffered injury, I'm the one with a legal claim to hold her for negligence. So instead of calling the cops out to the middle of nowhere & making an issue of it, I called her something similar to "I'll C U Next Tuesday" and rode off.

I don't know what ever came of the situation, but there are lots of "Leash your dog" signs now prominantly posted in the area & dog walkers seem to be attentive in the times I've rode there since.

On a side note, digging pebbles & gravel out of road rash sucks.

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Old 04-29-19, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
Another rider bit on a ride west of Atlanta this weekend.

The dog is very aggressive and had been reported to animal control several times. Squirting this dog with a water bottle or telling it "No" in a stern voice was useless with this inbred and this time it got a rider in the ankle. The rider was able to return to ride start under his own power.

County animal control said hat that the dog would be impounded for ten days if it could be located. The owner will have to pay a $150 fee to have the dog returned.


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Whilst a dog lover and someone who looks after dogs being training to be assistance dogs at the weekend, I personally couldn't keep a dog that I thought was vicious or likely to hurt someone I'd hate the constant worry.

I also think that punishment is limp .... they should make it a huge fine so it really hurts the owners, especially if it's a repeat offender as ignoring it offers no incentive for the owner to do anything about it, in the UK there's a level where the courts will commit the dog to be be destroyed but I'm not sure how far they have to go.

I would have thought if someone wrote to the animal control saying you have been notified on several occasions that this dog is a threat and you've failed to act so if someone gets hurt you will be assuming liability for negligence if they'd get someone to investigate it pretty sharpish.
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Old 04-29-19, 09:18 AM
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Water bottle full of ammonia. Squirt the mutt in the face with that and he'll leave you alone.

My history teacher in HS gave me that tip. He was a distance runner, and tended to run into feral dogs in rural MI.
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All the senior citizen walkers in my area carry sticks, golf clubs, and canes that look like clubs. I guess that's their preferred method of dealing with the problem.
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Squirting a dog with ammonia is extremely bad advice.

You will permanently harm the dog and risk injuring yourself or others on the ride. It is the absolute wrong way to deal with dogs.

The correct way to deal with dogs is OC type pepper spray.

Sabre Red Pepper Gel is organic, does no permanent harm to the dog or the environment, wears off completely in four hours and stops the dog cold. I have used it several times and dogs no longer bother cyclists - they won't even come near us. It was recommended to me by animal control officers.

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Originally Posted by Witterings View Post
Whilst a dog lover and someone who looks after dogs being training to be assistance dogs at the weekend, I personally couldn't keep a dog that I thought was vicious or likely to hurt someone I'd hate the constant worry.

I also think that punishment is limp .... they should make it a huge fine so it really hurts the owners, especially if it's a repeat offender as ignoring it offers no incentive for the owner to do anything about it, in the UK there's a level where the courts will commit the dog to be be destroyed but I'm not sure how far they have to go.

I would have thought if someone wrote to the animal control saying you have been notified on several occasions that this dog is a threat and you've failed to act so if someone gets hurt you will be assuming liability for negligence if they'd get someone to investigate it pretty sharpish.

Animal control in the counties are generally very good. In this particular county they are very responsive.

The last time I reported an aggressive dog they drove out to the location that day. The officer called me from the owners front porch. They can't bust into people's homes or issue citations if they don't see the loose dog. If someone is bitten then they are allowed to enter property or even arrest the owner if they refuse to hand over the dog. They can only do what they are allowed to do.

In this case the animal control officer was great. "The dog is getting impounded if I see it." and so forth. County police responded as well.

The problem is that there are so many dogs, many inbred.
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Old 04-29-19, 10:42 AM
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Around here, the good ole boys use the excuse that it's not their dog but a stray that they felt sorry for so they fed it a bit.

I got taken down by a border collie a couple of years ago. It ran out after me and right in front of my bike. I hit is and went down. This was like 1 week before I was flying to Banff to ride the upper portion of the TD route too. As I got up off of the pavement the dogs owner came running out and the first words out of her mouth were "OMG, are you alright?" She was genuinely concerned for my well being.

Other than in a case like that, my rule is that if your dog bites me or takes me down, you will have a legal problem.
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I think the biggest shocker to this story is that a cyclist would actually expect NOT to be bitten by a dog in rural Georgia.

I used to live in Sandy Springs/Dunwoody. Outside of the city it was Hicksville USA.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post

The correct way to deal with dogs is OC type pepper spray

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+1 on this, but be sure you get the GEL type - You don't want spray blow back from this stuff
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Originally Posted by Doctor Morbius View Post
I think the biggest shocker to this story is that a cyclist would actually expect NOT to be bitten by a dog in rural Georgia.

I used to live in Sandy Springs/Dunwoody. Outside of the city it was Hicksville USA.

Hicksville is a town on Long Island.


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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
Squirting a dog with ammonia is extremely bad advice.

You will permanently harm the dog and risk injuring yourself or others on the ride. It is the absolute wrong way to deal with dogs.

The correct way to deal with dogs is OC type pepper spray.

Sabre Red Pepper Gel is organic, does no permanent harm to the dog or the environment, wears off completely in four hours and stops the dog cold. I have used it several times and dogs no longer bother cyclists - they won't even come near us. It was recommended to me by animal control officers.

https://www.sabrered.com/pepper-spra...p-belt-holster

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You make a good point. I like your idea better.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
Squirting a dog with ammonia is extremely bad advice.

You will permanently harm the dog and risk injuring yourself or others on the ride. It is the absolute wrong way to deal with dogs.

The correct way to deal with dogs is OC type pepper spray.

Sabre Red Pepper Gel is organic, does no permanent harm to the dog or the environment, wears off completely in four hours and stops the dog cold. I have used it several times and dogs no longer bother cyclists - they won't even come near us. It was recommended to me by animal control officers.

https://www.sabrered.com/pepper-spra...p-belt-holster

$12.99 for prime members.





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Some dogs don't have much of a reaction to OC at all. The nice thing about it though is even if it doesn't work they take it back to their owners!
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As far as the legal penalty, the cyclist might just tell his insurance company the reason for the medical claim. I'd think having an insurance company after you would be a worse punishment than losing the dog.
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Tim,

Where exactly were you in metro Atlanta when the dog attacked? I want to avoid this area. Thanks
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Where exactly were you in metro Atlanta when the dog attacked? I want to avoid this area. Thanks
Yeah... I'm in Westish ATL and would also like to not get bit.

Spill it!
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That's why I always carry a knife with me when riding, especially in rural areas.
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Tim,

Where exactly were you in metro Atlanta when the dog attacked? I want to avoid this area. Thanks
Hey - Even if you had the GPS co-ordinates of that particular dawg, there could be another one lurking, a mile down the road.
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I have found that getting ahead of the mutt dismounting your bicycle and holding your handlebars and swinging the rear wheel into the path of the mutts head is very effective at stopping repeat offenders of the canine variety.
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Originally Posted by WaveyGravey View Post
Where exactly were you in metro Atlanta when the dog attacked? I want to avoid this area. Thanks
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Yeah... I'm in Westish ATL and would also like to not get bit.

It was not metro or West Atlanta. It was west of Atlanta. I did not get bit.

Coots Lake trailhead is mile 33.5 on the Silver Comet Trail. Two groups started at 10:00 AM. The group I was with returned to find Polk County police and animal control at the trailhead speaking with the rider from the other group who was bit and had cut his ride short.

Really, throw a dart at a map of Polk or Bartow county. Dogs are a huge problem out that way. This particular bite happened on Hightower Rd. south of Morgan Valley Rd to the west of Rockmart.


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