I bought the gruppo, you pick out the frame.
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I bought the gruppo, you pick out the frame.
Went to a bmx swap meet, and bought several boxes of C/V stuff!
I have never owned anything this new, but the price was right. I do not even know what year it is, but I need you to choose the best frame for this.
A little bit about myself: I am partial to all things Italian, long walks on the beach, and puppies. I am also a Campy FanBoy. I do have a Bianchi Squadra frame en route to myself from C&V marketplace, but maybe it is appropriate, or maybe it is not.
Colnago Titanio? Would that be period correct (as they say in collector car circles), or perhaps retromod onto something OLD? Not sure what, but thata a cool idea.
PS. If anyone is selling matching Hubs, or clincher rims, let me know. Would carbon clincher rims be correct? They would probably have a janky brake track from that era.
I have never owned anything this new, but the price was right. I do not even know what year it is, but I need you to choose the best frame for this.
A little bit about myself: I am partial to all things Italian, long walks on the beach, and puppies. I am also a Campy FanBoy. I do have a Bianchi Squadra frame en route to myself from C&V marketplace, but maybe it is appropriate, or maybe it is not.
Colnago Titanio? Would that be period correct (as they say in collector car circles), or perhaps retromod onto something OLD? Not sure what, but thata a cool idea.
PS. If anyone is selling matching Hubs, or clincher rims, let me know. Would carbon clincher rims be correct? They would probably have a janky brake track from that era.
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Itd be perfect for the Squadra since its already rear spaced for 10 speed setup.
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What's the threading on that bottom bracket? Maybe that will suggest something ... or just send you hunting for a new BB. Diameter of the front der band might tell you where it wants to be.
Don't worry about period correctness unless the frame is part of a famous bike like a pro or national team thing. Just spread and align the rear triangle to fit if needed.
Do you have cleats for those pedals?
I've got a box very much like that one so I bought Essthreetee's Mikkelson frame to go with it.
Have fun building this one up.
Don't worry about period correctness unless the frame is part of a famous bike like a pro or national team thing. Just spread and align the rear triangle to fit if needed.
Do you have cleats for those pedals?
I've got a box very much like that one so I bought Essthreetee's Mikkelson frame to go with it.
Have fun building this one up.
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Gotta have a few Della Santa's around there... or try this,
https://reno.craigslist.org/bik/d/re...966837862.html
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9 speed, so late 90s to be period correct.
Short cage, so be strong for your Sierra Mts.
I would say put it on anything Euro, preferably Italian.
Carbon levers, maybe a carbon frame?
This one originally had Campy 9 but RacingT RD.
Short cage, so be strong for your Sierra Mts.
I would say put it on anything Euro, preferably Italian.
Carbon levers, maybe a carbon frame?
This one originally had Campy 9 but RacingT RD.
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Get yourself an Italian steel frame ,anything that matches the bottom bracket threading you have and 130 spacing in the rear. There are tons of good quality ,moderately priced Italian frames out there with decent paint jobs. The biggest factor is finding one with good paint because the cost of a repaint would be as much as the cost of the frame itself. Something from the 90's preferbally.
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the squadra gets my vote. get it going on!
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Colnago ti bikes are not especially well regarded...you can get a Merlin, or Serotta, for less, and you aren't getting contracted mystery ti. There are so many frames, brands, etc...it depends on your preference.
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Funny! I have a frame looking for a Campagnolo gruppo! Preference is Record 8 or 9 speed from the mid to late 80's to mid 90's.
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I saw a nice Royce Union on FB Market Place this morning
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Concept: Innovative late steel era Italian design >>>
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I'm glad you bought a gruppo and not a groupset.
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No, be careful here! The Ironman will accept a BSC BB cartridge. The OP needs to see what threading/BB shell width his bottom bracket on hand is made for. Another key interface is bottom bracket: is this a Record chainset? It looks good enough to be one, 52/42 or 53/39. If it is a Record (and for most model years this works for Chorus), the BB length that fits it properly to a frame is 102 mm. If it is a lower grade than Chorus, it could need the Campagnolo 111 mm spindle width.
Nothing against the Ironman, but as good as it is it's not an Eytalian. So be careful.
If it's an Italian BB, find a nice Mondonico with original fork. They're not too common, but also not too dear.
Nothing against the Ironman, but as good as it is it's not an Eytalian. So be careful.
If it's an Italian BB, find a nice Mondonico with original fork. They're not too common, but also not too dear.
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Gruppo is just Italian for group...but over the years, gruppo has just became a standard term. Either word is fine, but a campy group is almost always referred to as gruppo, whereas other non-Italian part groups are more commonly called groupsets (but many of us just use gruppo for everything).
Its all semantics, and it doesnt matter.
Its all semantics, and it doesnt matter.