Failed after only 33 years
10-19-18, 11:47 AM
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Failed after only 33 years
Yeah, I'm gonna write the company and ask for my money back. My rear 27 x 1 3/8 IRC "Cross-Country" that was the original spec on my 1985 Miyata Two-Ten finally gave up the ghost. Even so, the thing got me home. The flat came from a slow leak where the canti pad abraded the tube. That bike's my daily commuter, and they were great tires. Many happy miles. Ooooh! A replacement on eBay!
Actually, I think this may be the push I needed to do the 700c conversion I never got around to.
Actually, I think this may be the push I needed to do the 700c conversion I never got around to.
10-19-18, 12:03 PM
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There are situations where the sudden failure of an old tire can be quite dangerous!
10-19-18, 12:31 PM
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Might be cheaper to get a pair of Swift Sand Canyons in 27 x1 3/8 rather than moving to a new wheel set and possibly brakes, I hope you are not riding with other 33 year old consumables: chain, tubes, cables and housing brake pads etc...... penny wise and collar bone foolish.
10-19-18, 01:27 PM
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you were commuting on original tires? nice
reminds me 10? yrs ago when I needed a project bike, drove 2 hrs to CT to get a $25 '70s bike w/original tires for $20 bucks & I gave it a test ride the next day. got about 13 miles of my 17 mile commute when I heard threads popping. looked down to see some bulging! turned around & was lucky to make it back home. so yeah, buy new tires ... hahaha (warning: they don't make them like they used to!)
reminds me 10? yrs ago when I needed a project bike, drove 2 hrs to CT to get a $25 '70s bike w/original tires for $20 bucks & I gave it a test ride the next day. got about 13 miles of my 17 mile commute when I heard threads popping. looked down to see some bulging! turned around & was lucky to make it back home. so yeah, buy new tires ... hahaha (warning: they don't make them like they used to!)
10-19-18, 01:49 PM
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It might be time for new tires. If it were me, I would go with Ryansu input on this. Get the Swift 27" x 1-3/8" rather than new wheels or rims.
10-19-18, 01:50 PM
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Yep, and that includes me.
Bicycle riders are some of the cheapest people I have ever met.
10-19-18, 01:58 PM
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I regularly rebuild wheels for mid '80s bikes from 27" to 700c. I've never hit one where Mafac Racers didn't work and those are one of my favorite all-time brakes. Going 700c gives you, in addition to a far better tire selection, the options of running bigger tires with fenders. Many of the '80s bikes had fender eyes and horizontal dropouts, making them great candidates for winter/rain/city fix gear use and with the dopout being used to adjust chain slack, the smaller tires inside the fender are a plus.
Edit: I did the 27" to 700c conversion to a ~'83 Miyata 610 in 1990 and rode it 27,000 miles, nearly all as a winter.rain/city bike. That bike had cantilever brakes but when I crashed the fork, I put a Mafac Racer on the front. That Mafac is still on the Trek 4something I replaced it with.
Ben
Edit: I did the 27" to 700c conversion to a ~'83 Miyata 610 in 1990 and rode it 27,000 miles, nearly all as a winter.rain/city bike. That bike had cantilever brakes but when I crashed the fork, I put a Mafac Racer on the front. That Mafac is still on the Trek 4something I replaced it with.
Ben
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10-19-18, 02:12 PM
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I have never been able to get that kind of life out of a skin-sided or gum-sided tire.
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10-19-18, 02:56 PM
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I regularly rebuild wheels for mid '80s bikes from 27" to 700c. I've never hit one where Mafac Racers didn't work and those are one of my favorite all-time brakes. Going 700c gives you, in addition to a far better tire selection, the options of running bigger tires with fenders. Many of the '80s bikes had fender eyes and horizontal dropouts, making them great candidates for winter/rain/city fix gear use and with the dopout being used to adjust chain slack, the smaller tires inside the fender are a plus.
Edit: I did the 27" to 700c conversion to a ~'83 Miyata 610 in 1990 and rode it 27,000 miles, nearly all as a winter.rain/city bike. That bike had cantilever brakes but when I crashed the fork, I put a Mafac Racer on the front. That Mafac is still on the Trek 4something I replaced it with.
Ben
Edit: I did the 27" to 700c conversion to a ~'83 Miyata 610 in 1990 and rode it 27,000 miles, nearly all as a winter.rain/city bike. That bike had cantilever brakes but when I crashed the fork, I put a Mafac Racer on the front. That Mafac is still on the Trek 4something I replaced it with.
Ben
I'd like to get one of those "Team Cheap" stickers, but I bet they're asking a fortune for them.
10-19-18, 04:18 PM
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10-19-18, 05:00 PM
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You spent money on that sticker?
10-19-18, 05:16 PM
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10-19-18, 05:44 PM
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It also looks like you might have Bullseye cranks... another well made product!
I wouldn't say that you're cheap; you recognize quality and value!
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10-19-18, 06:12 PM
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but you apparently have SunTour XC Pro pedals (if I've got the nomenclature correct)... some of the nicest pedals ever made! I've got some myself, and they are such quality!
It also looks like you might have Bullseye cranks... another well made product!
I wouldn't say that you're cheap; you recognize quality and value!
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It also looks like you might have Bullseye cranks... another well made product!
I wouldn't say that you're cheap; you recognize quality and value!
Steve in Peoria
10-19-18, 08:05 PM
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Nope. When the side wall gave way about 2 miles from the house (in the rain), tube bulged a bit and whacked the brake shoe occasionally as I finished the commute. Got me home, then the abraded tube went flat overnight. That'd really be a high quality tire if I were braking on the sidewall for 33 years.
10-19-18, 08:17 PM
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Ah! Right, that makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification 
10-20-18, 08:44 AM
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Cheapskates
+1 Especially the C & V, CR crew!
Some will spend ungodly amounts on arcane Italian high end marques or French constructeur bikes but bulk on spending a few bucks for things like high quality tubes and so on.
I always like a good deal or a bargain but much of the time you get what you pay for and I buy what ever fits the bill (under $20 preferably)
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Especially the C & V, CR crew!Some will spend ungodly amounts on arcane Italian high end marques or French constructeur bikes but bulk on spending a few bucks for things like high quality tubes and so on.
I always like a good deal or a bargain but much of the time you get what you pay for and I buy what ever fits the bill (under $20 preferably)
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10-20-18, 01:19 PM
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Surely the company will come to the party and supply you with a replacement! After all 33 years is 'chicken feed' around here.
10-21-18, 07:58 AM
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Guilty as charged ! Plenty of life left here:
Actually just seeing how long I can go, and only ride these on solo nightly ride "loops" that never have me too far away from my vehicle if I should flat. I have new tires waiting to be put on.
Actually just seeing how long I can go, and only ride these on solo nightly ride "loops" that never have me too far away from my vehicle if I should flat. I have new tires waiting to be put on.
10-21-18, 10:30 PM
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How many miles (or years) did it take you to achieve that great, threadbare, patina? Don
10-21-18, 10:36 PM
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