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Old 05-21-18, 08:01 PM
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Shades of vintage at this year's Giro

Lots of tan-wall tires.




Yates wearing a cycling cap on the podium.

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Heck yeah. Enjoy the heritage.
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Hear hear. Love Yates' riding style, and #capsnothats .
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Yeah, I was shopping for tires recently, and noticed that Vittoria was offering "skinwalls".
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I love seeing tan wall tires back in vogue. When I got back into cycling about 10 years ago, tanwalls were dead, passé. I was bummed when the old Panaracers on my bike got damaged and all I could find locally were all black or black with bright colored stripes. Paselas were in the "well, we could order those for you" catalog. Now I'm surrounded by Paselas, Compasses, Somas. I feel vindicated in my tastes.
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I also like that Yates kept his black shorts, and didn't get a pink bike.
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YAY FOR SKINWALLS!!
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At the Amgen Long Beach Stage I saw these aluminium frame Tarmacs. I knew they made them, but didn' know the Pros were racing on them.

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I like the 'tan-wall' tires, whether solely for good looks or a return to vintage tradition. By the way in the picture with Yates, is that an honest to gosh podium girl? That's another tradition I've always kind of enjoyed, I guess these days, at the risk of being regarded as something kind of awful. I'd heard, and a quick web search seems to confirm it, that podium girls are history, a tradition not to be continued with the Tour de France.
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More than the outfits and bikes, this year's Giro is old-fashioned racing! Yates the last two weeks and Froome on Zoncolan is racing from an old playbook, I love it!

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I even will see classic-profile drop bars a la Cinelli 64 / Giro d'Italia (no less), albeit with a modern 31.8mm clamp diameter, and in black. Interesting to see. Tan walls look great against all-black carbon wheels, too. The climbs have been pretty brutal, but I really enjoy seeing the GC contenders battling it out at the front instead of being towed up by teams all the time. I don't know how all of this will play out in the TdF, but Yates will be around to give people a run for their money. Hoping Sagan joins again, and hopefully doesn't get DQ'd for a non-reason (but you know, that's the French....).
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I thought the thread was going to be about vintage sunglasses. Y'know Vuarnets, Wayfarers
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Originally Posted by wsbob
I like the 'tan-wall' tires, whether solely for good looks or a return to vintage tradition.
FMB and Dugast have always made tan-wall tires,which kind of makes them stand out among the crowd.
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
I thought the thread was going to be about vintage sunglasses. Y'know Vuarnets, Wayfarers
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Originally Posted by Lascauxcaveman
I thought the thread was going to be about vintage sunglasses. Y'know Vuarnets, Wayfarers
Still have my Italian-made Wayfarers from 1982. First pair of good sunglasses.
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I would try skinwalls or tanwalls again if the sides would hold up better. The last time I tried Specialized Armadillos, the sidewalls cracked open before the tread wore out. I don't recall this being as big a problem in the early 1970s. The UV component of sunlight is stronger now because of the ozone layer depletion, but I wonder what else is involved.
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Originally Posted by John E
...The UV component of sunlight is stronger now because of the ozone layer depletion, but I wonder what else is involved.
Different chemistry of whatever tire sidewalls are made of? Just guessing, but I imagine tire recipes change over time; materials and process. Tires seem relatively cheap nowadays compared to olden times.
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Originally Posted by Slightspeed
At the Amgen Long Beach Stage I saw these aluminium frame Tarmacs. I knew they made them, but didn' know the Pros were racing on them.

Those are Allez (what is the plural of Allez? Allezes? ) not Tarmacs.
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/al...=239799-129269
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Originally Posted by John E
I would try skinwalls or tanwalls again if the sides would hold up better. The last time I tried Specialized Armadillos, the sidewalls cracked open before the tread wore out. I don't recall this being as big a problem in the early 1970s. The UV component of sunlight is stronger now because of the ozone layer depletion, but I wonder what else is involved.
I sorta have to second this. Don't get me wrong, I've ridden skinwall paselas for decades. Great tires, I love 'em, and I love the looks. But with the last couple sets, I agree with John...sidewalls cracked, or split in one case, well before the tire was worn out. That was a bummer. And this was on my daily commuter, which is stored in the garage at night, and leaned against the wall of my office during the day. Only exposure is commutes (30 minutes each way), and long weekend rides. So, despite really digging the look, I'm trying blackwall T Servs on my commuter this go round. Haven't received them yet, but they'll go on in the next week. Not knocking skinwall paselas, mind you, just gonna try something else for awhile.
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Originally Posted by iab
Still have my Italian-made Wayfarers from 1982. First pair of good sunglasses.
Notice how the lenses were more scratch resistant back then? I have a pair from the 80's that I've dropped umpteen times with little to no damage.
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Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce
Those are Allez (what is the plural of Allez? Allezes? ) not Tarmacs.
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/al...=239799-129269
Good catch. When I saw the low mounted seat stays, I was thinking Tarmac. I have an old Allez which I love riding. When I saw the welds I knew it was aluminum, just blew it on the model. Haven't checked out the Specialized catalog in awhile. Not the first time I've been wrong.
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Originally Posted by Slightspeed
Good catch. When I saw the low mounted seat stays, I was thinking Tarmac. I have an old Allez which I love riding. When I saw the welds I knew it was aluminum, just blew it on the model. Haven't checked out the Specialized catalog in awhile. Not the first time I've been wrong.
Those welds evoke images of caterpillars sacrificing themselves to let someone have a bike. I like the paint, but the geometry and the welds... different story.
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Originally Posted by clubman
Notice how the lenses were more scratch resistant back then? I have a pair from the 80's that I've dropped umpteen times with little to no damage.
They were glass back in the day. You still can get glass, but I think it may be a special order. All of mine are prescription glass.
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^^Wasn't the fact that sunglasses were made of glass the reason so few racers wore them (fear of getting broken glass in the eye)? And Hinault was sort of thumbing it in the face of tradition by wearing shades?
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Originally Posted by Rocket-Sauce
^^Wasn't the fact that sunglasses were made of glass the reason so few racers wore them (fear of getting broken glass in the eye)? And Hinault was sort of thumbing it in the face of tradition by wearing shades?
Coppi wore shades, Ray Ban, long before Hinault. (Also, as one data point, I have never had broken glass in the eye.)






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