Before dawn and no lights
10-11-19, 08:40 AM
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I have been having this discussion with my son this week. He has zero period this semester and leaves the house at 6:45-6:50 am. The lights I bought him are pretty good “be seen” lights but he doesn’t rely on them to see the road. But we have another few weeks of DST, so we may have to rethink this.
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10-12-19, 09:59 AM
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No one really needs to answer the question "Why?" It was rhetorical. It just amazes me how dumb people are. I feel sorry for the driver that plows into him at an intersection and then has to live with taking him out. A good percentage of the trail has no light at all. I actually had one dude yell at me for killing his night vision when I didnt even see him coming until he was 20 - 30 feet from me.
People are dumb.
People are dumb.
10-12-19, 06:33 PM
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I think active and passive lighting in the dark is an important part of safety when I’m out.
A concept used in risk management is the “swiss cheese model”. (You can look it up.)
Good conspicuity day and night is something I have control over, and is some cheese for my safety.
It is not armor plating.
A concept used in risk management is the “swiss cheese model”. (You can look it up.)
Good conspicuity day and night is something I have control over, and is some cheese for my safety.
It is not armor plating.
10-12-19, 06:54 PM
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I use three extremely bright headlights, a fantastic rear light, highly reflective clothing, and ride defensively. Still, at least twice a week a vehicle absolutely and completely does not see me. I think part of the problem is our size. We are small, much smaller than a car, smaller than a motorcycle. Even with all these proactive measures and being totally paranoid, I still get missed routinely. The reality is just that riding a bike in this city is just dangerous. Caveat emptor.
11-16-19, 03:48 PM
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I honestly feel like a lot of people just don't think ahead. Or think safety rules or whatever else don't apply to them. I'm sure even some of them are afraid of "looking stupid" or "dorky". I'd rather look stupid and dorky than dead. Just sayin.
