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Giant Revolt 2 2020 Aluminum Gravel Bike
So a little over a year ago I saw the *prototype* gravel bike from Giant and I had a cheeky response:
When I posted this is wasn't revealed that the bike would actually be the Revolt Advanced (sans SX) and I was happy when it was revealed as the Revolt. However there were only carbon models leaving the original Revolt to be superseded by the Toughroad GX.
I have a Toughroad and used it for a year. While I liked the tire clearance, the front end felt too floppy and the rear end was too long and sapped a lot of my power from pedaling. Recently however, Giant announced & re-released the Revolt ALUXX model and I was very interested.
There weren't many *actual* reviews of the bike and a lot of misinformation that led me to shy away from it, but I did find one bike shop that was sorta close (~90 miles lol) so I took a trip to go see it in person and try it out and I'm really glad I did because I discovered some very important differences between this and the Carbon:
When I posted this is wasn't revealed that the bike would actually be the Revolt Advanced (sans SX) and I was happy when it was revealed as the Revolt. However there were only carbon models leaving the original Revolt to be superseded by the Toughroad GX.
I have a Toughroad and used it for a year. While I liked the tire clearance, the front end felt too floppy and the rear end was too long and sapped a lot of my power from pedaling. Recently however, Giant announced & re-released the Revolt ALUXX model and I was very interested.
There weren't many *actual* reviews of the bike and a lot of misinformation that led me to shy away from it, but I did find one bike shop that was sorta close (~90 miles lol) so I took a trip to go see it in person and try it out and I'm really glad I did because I discovered some very important differences between this and the Carbon:
- Tire clearance: The fork clearance is basically unchanged however the Revolt ALUXX has 430mm chainstays (vs 425mm Advanced). I noticed the ALUXX model had more generous mud clearance around the similar sized 38c tires.
- Bottom Bracket: So not good that it comes with a square taper BB as I prefer hollowtech cranks. HOWEVER the BB by proxy is threaded and not press-fit.
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I have a Toughroad and used it for a year. While I liked the tire clearance, the front end felt too floppy and the rear end was too long and sapped a lot of my power from pedaling. Recentl
There weren't many *actual* reviews of the bike and a lot of misinformation that led me to shy away from it, but I did find one bike shop that was sorta close (~90 miles lol) so I took a trip to go see it in person and try it out and I'm really glad I did because I discovered some very important differences between this and the Carbon:
There weren't many *actual* reviews of the bike and a lot of misinformation that led me to shy away from it, but I did find one bike shop that was sorta close (~90 miles lol) so I took a trip to go see it in person and try it out and I'm really glad I did because I discovered some very important differences between this and the Carbon:
- Tire clearance: The fork clearance is basically unchanged however the Revolt ALUXX has 430mm chainstays (vs 425mm Advanced). I noticed the ALUXX model had more generous mud clearance around the similar sized 38c tires.
- Bottom Bracket: So not good that it comes with a square taper BB as I prefer hollowtech cranks. HOWEVER the BB by proxy is threaded and not press-fit.
America only gets the 2.
I would be tempted to buy the 2. but by the time I swapped the Crankset, Brakes, Seatpost I'd be better off just driving to CA and buying the full 105 zero version of the bike.
Oh you are pretty Close to Giant Toronto. 650 Queen St W, Toronto, ON M6J 1E4, Canada
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If you are close to Canada you can go buy a Full 105 version! Canada offers a 0, 1, and 2
America only gets the 2.
I would be tempted to buy the 2. but by the time I swapped the Crankset, Brakes, Seatpost I'd be better off just driving to CA and buying the full 105 zero version of the bike.
Oh you are pretty Close to Giant Toronto. 650 Queen St W, Toronto, ON M6J 1E4, Canada
America only gets the 2.
I would be tempted to buy the 2. but by the time I swapped the Crankset, Brakes, Seatpost I'd be better off just driving to CA and buying the full 105 zero version of the bike.
Oh you are pretty Close to Giant Toronto. 650 Queen St W, Toronto, ON M6J 1E4, Canada
My issue is that I’m really on a tight budget for now so trying to get the 105 would be too much atm. I have Sora on my other bike and I’ve had no issues whatsoever. My plan is to ride it for the next year/two as is and hopefully they’ll trickle down a 9-Speed hydro lever that’s cross-compatible with old Sora. That or I’ll upgrade to 2x10 GRX.
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I actually went to the local Giant dealer to buy the one they have sitting on the floor.
The Reason I didn't buy the AUXX Revolt was because of the Downtube not being fully welded at the BB shell. I had a frame like that before, and I hated it. Especially on long rides.
I guess the only way I'd buy the Giant is if they let me take one on a 70 Mile demo ride. I am guessing the LBS wouldn't go for it.
The Reason I didn't buy the AUXX Revolt was because of the Downtube not being fully welded at the BB shell. I had a frame like that before, and I hated it. Especially on long rides.
I guess the only way I'd buy the Giant is if they let me take one on a 70 Mile demo ride. I am guessing the LBS wouldn't go for it.
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I actually went to the local Giant dealer to buy the one they have sitting on the floor.
The Reason I didn't buy the AUXX Revolt was because of the Downtube not being fully welded at the BB shell. I had a frame like that before, and I hated it. Especially on long rides.
The Reason I didn't buy the AUXX Revolt was because of the Downtube not being fully welded at the BB shell. I had a frame like that before, and I hated it. Especially on long rides.
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Oh well in that case that just means that I’ll have even more efficient pedal strokes so I guess that’s a win for me. If I ever decide to do an extended weekend ride then I guess I’ll see for myself.
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for people like me.... I'll notice it, and I'll hate it.
I'd just just rather run full external cable housing, than to cheap out on Internal cable routing.
However...... that's me.
For you, the Revolt as it is way better than the Toughroad. It's a win.
My attraction to the AUXX Revolt was the threaded BB as a winter beater bike. And I voice because Somehow I hope that word gets back to Giant. Because this Probably Crossed the Advanced off my list too. If they are willing to cheap out on the AUXX frame, where did they cheap out on the Advanced frame?
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Got the bike from my LBS Tuesday. Had them swap the saddle/bars. Went with the D-Fuse bars in 46cm since it came with the Contact XR bars. Saddle was half-off since it was a take-off but it’s more comfortable from first impressions. Added the Maxxis Rambler 45c’s that I previously purchased elsewhere. Haven’t ridden since I had more to swap on my own:
Threaded BB. Swapped the Square Taper for a Hollowtech II
Rear tire clearance
Front tire clearance
Subtle asymmetric chainstay
Added my Metrea 46-32 crankset
Threaded BB. Swapped the Square Taper for a Hollowtech II
Rear tire clearance
Front tire clearance
Subtle asymmetric chainstay
Added my Metrea 46-32 crankset
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Congratulations. Now go ride it and enjoy.
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Nice looking bike!
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Update: got my 650b wheels in. They’re 30mm wide internally and the 1.9 Gravelking SKs measures around 52mm at 40-45PSI. Should probably stretch a bit but even so the clearance is phenomenal.
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So I did some more tire testing however this time I finally decided to test my 29 x 1.9” Specialized Ground control tires on the stock rims. Here are the results:
So they fit. They measure up to 47mm on these rims which is basically Road Plus on a 700c rim. The clearance is very similar to when I’m running 650b x 50mm tires so I’m comfortable with it. The only issue is that it’s close to the derailleur when it’s shifted to the large chainring, however for me this won’t be an issue since I’m going 1x anyway 😬
So they fit. They measure up to 47mm on these rims which is basically Road Plus on a 700c rim. The clearance is very similar to when I’m running 650b x 50mm tires so I’m comfortable with it. The only issue is that it’s close to the derailleur when it’s shifted to the large chainring, however for me this won’t be an issue since I’m going 1x anyway 😬
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Very nice. And I swear I can hear my Toughroad whispering "no no" behind me as I type this.
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That hole at the bottom bracket / bottom tube junction is such a no - no in my books - i've seen it in the Norco Search and also in the Merida Silex. All these are on aluminium bikes - must have come from the same factory......only a NOOB would be Ok with something like that - it does nothing for the bike - it lets in debris/mud/water and makes it less strong around the area where the most power/torque goes through.
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That hole at the bottom bracket / bottom tube junction is such a no - no in my books - i've seen it in the Norco Search and also in the Merida Silex. All these are on aluminium bikes - must have come from the same factory......only a NOOB would be Ok with something like that - it does nothing for the bike - it lets in debris/mud/water and makes it less strong around the area where the most power/torque goes through.
So I just ordered a RLT 9 RDO
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That hole at the bottom bracket / bottom tube junction is such a no - no in my books - i've seen it in the Norco Search and also in the Merida Silex. All these are on aluminium bikes - must have come from the same factory......only a NOOB would be Ok with something like that - it does nothing for the bike - it lets in debris/mud/water and makes it less strong around the area where the most power/torque goes through.
Looking at it though it seems that the aluminum RLT frame also has a hole at the bottom of the BB for cables, albeit not as big as the Revolt:
Well hey if my bike fails at the BB junction where all of this connects I’ll be happy to admit that the design is terrible. Till then 😬👍🏾
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That hole at the bottom bracket / bottom tube junction is such a no - no in my books - i've seen it in the Norco Search and also in the Merida Silex. All these are on aluminium bikes - must have come from the same factory......only a NOOB would be Ok with something like that - it does nothing for the bike - it lets in debris/mud/water and makes it less strong around the area where the most power/torque goes through.
It's a feature, not a fault.
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After I saw the 2020 RLTs I was considering them, although even the aluminum frame is out of my budget.
Looking at it though it seems that the aluminum RLT frame also has a hole at the bottom of the BB for cables, albeit not as big as the Revolt:
Well hey if my bike fails at the BB junction where all of this connects I’ll be happy to admit that the design is terrible. Till then 😬👍🏾
Looking at it though it seems that the aluminum RLT frame also has a hole at the bottom of the BB for cables, albeit not as big as the Revolt:
Well hey if my bike fails at the BB junction where all of this connects I’ll be happy to admit that the design is terrible. Till then 😬👍🏾
Anyone that has ever shoved a cork in their bar ends understands the purpose of muting the raw edge. The open down tube is nothing more than budget move, Ever watch a budget movie? Ever see the size of pot holes in a county/city that cut the budget?
I've ridden the Open ended down tube designed frame before, it sucks. No ifs about it budget moves and cutting corners is just a bad thing. always will be.
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yeah duh they needed an exit for the internal cables purpose and feature, but that " Feature" / "purpose" didn't make the bike frame better it made it a dead sluggish pig of a frame, prone to vibration and gave it a very harsh ride.
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at least Niner , on the ALuminum frame, puts a plug in it.
Anyone that has ever shoved a cork in their bar ends understands the purpose of muting the raw edge. The open down tube is nothing more than budget move, Ever watch a budget movie? Ever see the size of pot holes in a county/city that cut the budget?
I've ridden the Open ended down tube designed frame before, it sucks. No ifs about it budget moves and cutting corners is just a bad thing. always will be.
Anyone that has ever shoved a cork in their bar ends understands the purpose of muting the raw edge. The open down tube is nothing more than budget move, Ever watch a budget movie? Ever see the size of pot holes in a county/city that cut the budget?
I've ridden the Open ended down tube designed frame before, it sucks. No ifs about it budget moves and cutting corners is just a bad thing. always will be.
I’ve heard dozens more complaints about manufacturers using press-fit bottom brackets than I ever had about this. My opinion would be the same about that - I don’t mind it and it doesn’t hurt anyone.
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just because something doesn't bug you, doesn't make it less true.
for those that it will bug,,,, here it is out in the open and being talked about.
for those that it will bug,,,, here it is out in the open and being talked about.