Delivery Bikes in Dan Haag
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Delivery Bikes in Dan Haag
These delivery bikes are all over the place in Dan Haag today............. there's currently hundreds of them across the city delivering grocery shopping, take away, Beer & wine, plants and diy items, even car and bicycle parts.
They are all front wheel drive electric assist with easy swap batteries and they've all got the square section mounting points for sliding various boxes to carry the goods. Each front and rear mounting is rated to 25kg/55lb.
They are all front wheel drive electric assist with easy swap batteries and they've all got the square section mounting points for sliding various boxes to carry the goods. Each front and rear mounting is rated to 25kg/55lb.
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To confirm, the batteries are presumably the black sticks on top of the main tube, right? Can the maker of the bikes be identified?
On the differently organized end, I saw this summer in Europe a host of riders with black cube boxes on their back marked as Uber delivery, I think UberEats.
On the differently organized end, I saw this summer in Europe a host of riders with black cube boxes on their back marked as Uber delivery, I think UberEats.
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Where I live they are mainly used by Domino's, or only Domino's, I haven't seen them used by any other company. They are pretty fast, the bikes I mean, don't know about the delivery because I don't eat from Domino's.
On the differently organized end, I saw this summer in Europe a host of riders with black cube boxes on their back marked as Uber delivery, I think UberEats.
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[QUOTE=Stadjer;19814248]About the Deliver Ebike | E-Bike4delivery - Bezorgen zonder zorgen![\QUOTE]
Thanks! Very interesting. For what is provided those Ebikes+additions do not seem that expensive.
UberEats seems to serve now many cities around the world
https://about.ubereats.com/en/cities/
they generally partner with different restaurants and when you work for them you provide your own vehicle
https://www.uber.com/a/signup/drive/deliver/
Presumably in the area where I saw them there were other vehicles in use too but the cyclists were the most visible.
Thanks! Very interesting. For what is provided those Ebikes+additions do not seem that expensive.
https://about.ubereats.com/en/cities/
they generally partner with different restaurants and when you work for them you provide your own vehicle
https://www.uber.com/a/signup/drive/deliver/
Presumably in the area where I saw them there were other vehicles in use too but the cyclists were the most visible.
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The bikes are much nicer to have on the roads than the mopeds that used to do the deliveries. Where I live the best pizzeria's, Asian take aways usually don't deliver because it used to be a different kind of business one really had to commit to. Now it's possible to have a delivery service on the side. But still I don't share your enthousiasm.
The concern is on the teenager who has invested 2000 euro's in a bike and is riding around as fast as possible without insurance and has the full financial responsability for business taxes and stuff like that. A mistake or other typical teenage behaviour might get very expensive. Companies like Uber and Deliveroo are putting al the risk and responsability on young people for only the earnings of a regular job. They are exploiting the optimism and boldness of youth. The bikes themselves are the only good thing about these new developments.
I can't support that, I'll just keep cycling with pizza's myself.
About the Deliver Ebike | E-Bike4delivery - Bezorgen zonder zorgen![\QUOTE]
Thanks! Very interesting. For what is provided those Ebikes+additions do not seem that expensive.
UberEats seems to serve now many cities around the world
https://about.ubereats.com/en/cities/
they generally partner with different restaurants and when you work for them you provide your own vehicle
https://www.uber.com/a/signup/drive/deliver/
Presumably in the area where I saw them there were other vehicles in use too but the cyclists were the most visible.
Thanks! Very interesting. For what is provided those Ebikes+additions do not seem that expensive.
UberEats seems to serve now many cities around the world
https://about.ubereats.com/en/cities/
they generally partner with different restaurants and when you work for them you provide your own vehicle
https://www.uber.com/a/signup/drive/deliver/
Presumably in the area where I saw them there were other vehicles in use too but the cyclists were the most visible.
I can't support that, I'll just keep cycling with pizza's myself.
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Really? what makes you say that?
We've got hills here in Norwich including the steepest being Gas Hill at 1 in 5 and I live at the top of the 1 in 7 Ketts Hill.
<250watt hub motors (legal UK max) in the front wheels are doing the business here, even the motorised cargo bikes on Amazon and Argos delivery routes such a NRC truks and 8freight rear loaders and my own front loaders.
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Because I live where the hills confine the Columbia river to not have a delta.
I've been to the NL Coast .. sand berms .. not much elevation change
'We' sell a lot of mid drive conversions, at the bike shop, they have more torque+ the gearing advantage
of the rear wheel gears. to Elk and Deer hunters..
You have headwinds instead of mountains (outside of Maastricht, )
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I've been to the NL Coast .. sand berms .. not much elevation change
'We' sell a lot of mid drive conversions, at the bike shop, they have more torque+ the gearing advantage
of the rear wheel gears. to Elk and Deer hunters..
You have headwinds instead of mountains (outside of Maastricht, )
...
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I live in Norwich in the UK and Norwich is a city built on hills and we have a constant NE wind coming in off the North Sea. The hills vary from the 1 in 5 gas Hill, I live off the top of the 1 in 7 Ketts hill which is a primary route into out of the city. Gurney road, another primary route is 1 in 6, the city centre access is off Grapes Hill and that is only a moderate 1 in 10, then we have Carrow hill which is also 1 in 6 and Bracondale which is an easy 1 in 13, and then the city centre itself is far from flat with Gaol Hill, Timber hill, Ten Bells hill and Castle Hill to name just a handful more. In fact every road route into and out of the city is on a hill We've got two cargo bike delivery companies: Outspoken and The Last Mile on the Argos and Amazon routes along with a few independents running cargo bikes for DHL and UPS and we have gradient changes every few hundred metres.
I don't dispute that mid drives can deliver more torque but here in the UK we are limited by law to 250 watt motors and 18mph under electric drive, yet we have 250kg/550lb gross (rider, bike and load) raw pedal and pedal assist cargo bikes running about all over the city, alongside the Uber delivery and deliveroo riders on their bikes.
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Yes, I know that, I took the original photos a few weeks ago.
But you were the one who stated that "Hub motors are fine in flat places".. and I was the one who made the point regarding 250 watt hub motors being used in the front wheels of cargo bikes locally here in Norwich............ a not so flat city.
But you were the one who stated that "Hub motors are fine in flat places".. and I was the one who made the point regarding 250 watt hub motors being used in the front wheels of cargo bikes locally here in Norwich............ a not so flat city.