Ideal Wheel Size ; 26 , 650b , or 700c ?
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Ideal Wheel Size ; 26 , 650b , or 700c ?
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Are one of these wheel sizes better suited for an all-rounder on pavement when hauling groceries ?
Currently on a 700c with front wald basket , rear rack , and sometimes panniers .
Any advantage to 26 or 650b when hauling groceries ?
Are one of these wheel sizes better suited for an all-rounder on pavement when hauling groceries ?
Currently on a 700c with front wald basket , rear rack , and sometimes panniers .
Any advantage to 26 or 650b when hauling groceries ?
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26”/559 mm still has a tire selection advantage over 650B WRT utility riding.
If specific handling characteristics aren’t a high priority I’d pick 26” or 700C before 650B.
If specific handling characteristics aren’t a high priority I’d pick 26” or 700C before 650B.
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I think there are a lot of choices. And, it depends on a person's riding. Perhaps also a person's size. Distance?
Most of my riding is on skinny tire 700c wheels. It tows just fine, and can carry as much as I'm comfortable putting on the bike. The distance for my shopping trips add up.
I do have a fatter rear tire on my cargo bike, but generally only use that bike for heavy towing, and thus would have been fine with just about any rear wheel.
I think Yuba may put 24" wheels on the rear of some of their cargo bikes to lower the center of gravity. And, some front loaders use 20" wheels.
Most of my riding is on skinny tire 700c wheels. It tows just fine, and can carry as much as I'm comfortable putting on the bike. The distance for my shopping trips add up.
I do have a fatter rear tire on my cargo bike, but generally only use that bike for heavy towing, and thus would have been fine with just about any rear wheel.
I think Yuba may put 24" wheels on the rear of some of their cargo bikes to lower the center of gravity. And, some front loaders use 20" wheels.
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now 26" wheel bikes selling for $200+ will cost $15 more, here . you probably wont get taxed if you are building it up from parts..
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I haven't noticed any difference in the quality of my groceries whether they were carried on my 20" folder or on my 700c road bike.
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No matter the rim size, all three of those generally come out to around 25-27" total diameter when the tire is factored in. So there's a lot less at stake here than you might think. 650B is probably the most expensive route for your grocery-getter.
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It really depends on what you mean by hauling groceries. I have 2 fixed bikes for grocery. One just has rear panniers and is meant as a short/small run getter. If need, I can use my Chrome Backpack for the extras. For big runs, I have a full pannier(ed) front basket(ed) bike that can take a grocery trailer. In both instances, they are 26"er's. Mind, with the former, it really doesn't matter much what ti(y)re size you use. Light loads or small runs don't put much extra weight on the bike to matter much. For me, with all the weight and pulling of all the grocery on a big run, I prefer 26"er's. Allows me to run more comfortable with less chance for puncture and the extra width of the ti(y)re helps overall with the pull of the load. Specifically for me though, I also get grocery by bike year round and it snows here. So for me, knobby 26 is always the answer.
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The main issue I've encountered with 700c is finding the right compromise between frame and tire size.
For my errand bike I want heavy duty, puncture resistant tires. That effectively makes the frame higher. So I'd need a smaller frame, if it's a bike with a horizontal top tube, or a compact frame bike with sloping top tube.
My main errand bike's compact frame is technically slightly small for me, but with the 700x40 Michelin Protek Cross Max (which actually run closer to 700x45), the effective riding height is just about right.
I occasionally use my older hybrid for errands. With the horizontal top tube and 700x42 tires, the effective frame height is slightly tall for me. It was originally designed for 700x32 or x35 tires. So it's a chore to hoist a leg over the bike with the taller tires, when the bike is loaded with groceries.
If I had to rely on my horizontal top tube hybrid as my main errand bike I'd probably switch to 700x32 or x35 Michelin Protek or Schwalbe Marathon tires. You wouldn't think that 1/4" to 1/2" height matters, but it does when the rear rack is loaded down, especially when stuff is stacked above saddle height.
If I intended to buy a bike specifically for errands and hauling up to 50 lbs loaded directly on the bike in baskets or panniers, I'd go for a compact frame with sloping top tube and 26" wheels. That way I could step across the top tube when the rear rack is loaded higher than saddle height.
And there's a good selection of affordable heavy duty 26" tires, ranging from the Maxxis Hookworms to the Michelin Proteks I like.
For my errand bike I want heavy duty, puncture resistant tires. That effectively makes the frame higher. So I'd need a smaller frame, if it's a bike with a horizontal top tube, or a compact frame bike with sloping top tube.
My main errand bike's compact frame is technically slightly small for me, but with the 700x40 Michelin Protek Cross Max (which actually run closer to 700x45), the effective riding height is just about right.
I occasionally use my older hybrid for errands. With the horizontal top tube and 700x42 tires, the effective frame height is slightly tall for me. It was originally designed for 700x32 or x35 tires. So it's a chore to hoist a leg over the bike with the taller tires, when the bike is loaded with groceries.
If I had to rely on my horizontal top tube hybrid as my main errand bike I'd probably switch to 700x32 or x35 Michelin Protek or Schwalbe Marathon tires. You wouldn't think that 1/4" to 1/2" height matters, but it does when the rear rack is loaded down, especially when stuff is stacked above saddle height.
If I intended to buy a bike specifically for errands and hauling up to 50 lbs loaded directly on the bike in baskets or panniers, I'd go for a compact frame with sloping top tube and 26" wheels. That way I could step across the top tube when the rear rack is loaded higher than saddle height.
And there's a good selection of affordable heavy duty 26" tires, ranging from the Maxxis Hookworms to the Michelin Proteks I like.
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It is easier to get frames for fat(ter) tires in 26". And fatter means more weight capacity. An old(er) steel mountain bike fits the requirement perfectly. And they usually have v brakes, which fit fatter tires easier than long reach caliper brakes.
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the Xtracycle long-tail has begun offering a 20" rear wheel , for the lower load center of gravity the wheel is stronger, and
the same drivetrain parts are lower geared, turning a smaller wheel ..
Then using a 26" front wheel for familiar handling, you can add front Pannier racks too..
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the same drivetrain parts are lower geared, turning a smaller wheel ..
Then using a 26" front wheel for familiar handling, you can add front Pannier racks too..
...
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26 is still king in my opinion for hauling groceries. MTB tires have always been cheaper than road bike tires up until a few years ago. They also last longer and take abuse better.
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hmm. I didn´t know this. So by extension the smaller 26 mtb wheel is slightly stronger than 700c wheel?
the Xtracycle long-tail has begun offering a 20" rear wheel , for the lower load center of gravity the wheel is stronger, and
the same drivetrain parts are lower geared, turning a smaller wheel ..
Then using a 26" front wheel for familiar handling, you can add front Pannier racks too..
...
the same drivetrain parts are lower geared, turning a smaller wheel ..
Then using a 26" front wheel for familiar handling, you can add front Pannier racks too..
...
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Not if it's built poorly!
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Generically Bracing asymmetry of rear wheels with cassette drivers is unbalanced by necessity. DS spokes tighter..
until the frame rear dropout, is wider.. tandems do that. adding left end width lets hub shell be centered under the rim....
a single cog freewheel hub wide spaced large flange, or IGH , has better symmetry more equal spoke balance..
until the frame rear dropout, is wider.. tandems do that. adding left end width lets hub shell be centered under the rim....
a single cog freewheel hub wide spaced large flange, or IGH , has better symmetry more equal spoke balance..
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I use whatever bike I have handy for grocery getting. I have bikes with wheels from 16" to 28"... The three most common are my Raleigh Twenty, Raleigh Sports or my Redline R530. Wheels are 406 , 590 and 700c.
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Do you mind if the bread is smashed into the backpack?
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