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Old 06-12-16, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by HillRider
Remember, this is intended as a professional shop tool, not a home mechanics tool, so it's expected to be used on a daily basis. Some crown races/base plates do pop off easily but many on steel or alloy steerer can be very tight. Also, I don't know I'd attack a carbon fork with a screwdriver or razor blade.
... and if you're needing three hands, you're doing it wrong. The suggested use is to mount the TOOL in a work stand, see Crown Race Removal with the CRP-2 Crown Race Puller | Park Tool
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Old 06-12-16, 01:55 PM
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It's not useless,

but the Park pedal wrench is stupid.

the ninety degree jaw opening gives only one option for leverage

on a tool that arguably needs more leverage than any other.
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Old 06-12-16, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by woodcraft
It's not useless,

but the Park pedal wrench is stupid.

the ninety degree jaw opening gives only one option for leverage

on a tool that arguably needs more leverage than any other.
The 'regular' wrench? Yeah, pile of crap. The 'professional' wrench? Two different angles on the jaws, almost no pedal winds up in a bad position for it.
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Old 06-13-16, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by adamgoldberg
... and if you're needing three hands, you're doing it wrong. The suggested use is to mount the TOOL in a work stand, see Crown Race Removal with the CRP-2 Crown Race Puller | Park Tool
That makes perfect sense. Thanks.
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Old 06-13-16, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by wschruba
The 'regular' wrench? Yeah, pile of crap. The 'professional' wrench? Two different angles on the jaws, almost no pedal winds up in a bad position for it.
Although the professional wrench is terrible in it's own way. It's just a tool head tack welded onto a round tube and I've seen the whole head just break off.
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Old 06-13-16, 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wesmamyke
Although the professional wrench is terrible in it's own way. It's just a tool head tack welded onto a round tube and I've seen the whole head just break off.
Edit: Also the Park HW-2 headset locknut wrench deserves another mention. Possibly the worst fitting wrench like object ever made, absolute garbage.

Edit: I can't internet today.

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Old 06-14-16, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by joejack951
Park Tool ISIS bottom bracket tool, BBT-18. Terribly loose fit and the dang thing has an octagon on the back side. Yes, 8 flats, not 6. More is better, right? Unless you want to put a socket or box end wrench on it. Horrible tool for an almost obsolete bottom bracket interface but I still wonder WTH Park Tool was thinking with that thing.
I'm thinking 6 flats wouldn't have allowed for a proper sized central opening. IDK.
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Old 06-14-16, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by miamijim
I'm thinking 6 flats wouldn't have allowed for a proper sized central opening. IDK.
Their BBT-32 has the same center hole size requirement yet has a sensible 32mm hex: Bottom Bracket Tool | Park Tool
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Old 06-14-16, 10:06 AM
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@#$% isis/octalink anyhow :-)
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Old 06-14-16, 10:17 AM
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I have this strange tool that came to me in my Dad's tool kit he kept with his Paramount. It's a sheet metal handle about 4-5 in long, shaped like an 8 or a snowman. There's a circular tool head with 6 or 8 notches (a spoke wrench, I think) mounted on one end of it on a swivel. All galvanized. I can't find the photo but I posted it here somewhere a while ago and no one had any ideas what it might be for. All assumed it was a spoke wrench but could not explain the swivel or the handle.
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Old 06-14-16, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
@#$% isis/octalink anyhow :-)
I have a Stronglight Pulsion carbon fiber triple crank that I can't part with so I'll be one of the few remaining people who care about the ISIS standard. Until it breaks.
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Old 06-14-16, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by joejack951
I have a Stronglight Pulsion carbon fiber triple crank that I can't part with so I'll be one of the few remaining people who care about the ISIS standard. Until it breaks.
My bike has one also. I did have to buy that BB tool so I could use it once, but I figured out I can use a regular crank puller if I put something down in the hole to serve as a foot.
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Old 06-14-16, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
My bike has one also. I did have to buy that BB tool so I could use it once, but I figured out I can use a regular crank puller if I put something down in the hole to serve as a foot.
I have two ISIS cranks but only one that is worth keeping in regular service (the other is a cheap Truvativ that was worth the purchase price for the chainrings alone). Both have self-extracting crank bolts so I've never had the pleasure of using the little plug that came in my Nashbar tool kit for pulling ISIS cranks. I do wish I had waited until Stronglight modified the Pulsions to use external bearings.
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty
@#$% isis/octalink anyhow :-)
Fully agree about ISIS but I've had wonderful service from V-1 Octalinks. The 105 Octalink Hollowtech crank I bought aftermarket came with the little "mushroom" tool needed to use a standard crank puller. My Ultegra Hollowtech crank had self extracting bolts so no extra tools was needed. Both bottom brackets lasted a very long time and were retired still in good condition.
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Old 06-14-16, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by miamijim
I'm thinking 6 flats wouldn't have allowed for a proper sized central opening. IDK.
Look at a FR-1; just flare the tool out until a hex will be big enough.
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