Falcon Bike ID help
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Falcon Bike ID help
I found this bike on Facebook market place a few days ago. I have not been able to find much info on it and no photos exactly the same as this one. I found some info on Sheldon Browns site but can not figure out what year and model I have, here are some photos. Both derailers are Campagnolo.
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Looks like a basic Black Diamond, derailleurs are Campagnolo Valentino although the levers aren’t. Brakes appear to be Mafac Racer. Had one of those a couple of years ago, replaced the rear derailleur with a Campy Gran Sport. Nice riding bike for its price class. If it hadn’t been one size too tall I’d probably still have it.
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The San Remo is not just one model, but a range of them. Notice the stamped drops. This is likely a lower level one from early '70s.
It's orange, so add at least $50 to its value. Sort the chainstay ugliness during your overhaul. It could be a pretty nice bike with a lot of work.
It's orange, so add at least $50 to its value. Sort the chainstay ugliness during your overhaul. It could be a pretty nice bike with a lot of work.
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Cycle appears a one up from the bottom sort of model near to 1973.
Much has been altered since machine's departure from works.
Non-original fittings include wheels, shift levers, pedals, front brake caliper and likely saddle.
Original wheels would have been 27" steel which appear to have been replaced with 700c alloy of later manufacture than cycle.
Original shift levers would have been Campag Valentino.
Original front brake caliper would have been Weinmann Nr. 610.
Please do not attempt to ride cycle as it sits. Stem dangerously high. There should be at least 2 1/2" of stem down inside steerer for safety. Stem expander bolt is missing. Expander plug may be down inside there as yet... This needs sorting before you attempt to ride.
Frame constructed of Agrati lug pattern "AM" ART. 000.8040.000/E/U.
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Cycle appears a one up from the bottom sort of model near to 1973.
Much has been altered since machine's departure from works.
Non-original fittings include wheels, shift levers, pedals, front brake caliper and likely saddle.
Original wheels would have been 27" steel which appear to have been replaced with 700c alloy of later manufacture than cycle.
Original shift levers would have been Campag Valentino.
Original front brake caliper would have been Weinmann Nr. 610.
Please do not attempt to ride cycle as it sits. Stem dangerously high. There should be at least 2 1/2" of stem down inside steerer for safety. Stem expander bolt is missing. Expander plug may be down inside there as yet... This needs sorting before you attempt to ride.
Frame constructed of Agrati lug pattern "AM" ART. 000.8040.000/E/U.
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...the orange ones are from a certain time period when they had a deal with Eddy Merckx to use his name on some of the models. Some of the lesser ones, even with stamped dropouts, are kind of nice riding bikes and seem to be made of some kind of quality tubing, not unlikely straight gauge Reynolds. Here's an excellent reproduction of their 1974 ad listing the various models for that year.
...the orange ones are from a certain time period when they had a deal with Eddy Merckx to use his name on some of the models. Some of the lesser ones, even with stamped dropouts, are kind of nice riding bikes and seem to be made of some kind of quality tubing, not unlikely straight gauge Reynolds. Here's an excellent reproduction of their 1974 ad listing the various models for that year.
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The rear derailleur is a Campagnolo Velox, not a Valentino variant. The Velox was below the Valentino Extra. It was introduced in late 1971 for the 1972 model year and was short lived. San Remo was actually a line consisting of several models. This one would be either a model 80 or model 92. Both used plain gauge Reynolds 531 but only in the main tubes. The main difference between the two was that the model 92 was equipped with a tubular wheelset, while the model 80 used a wired-on wheelset. with aluminum rims. Tubulars were often replaced with wired-on by frustrated owners, so this could go either way. As noted by juvela, there are lots of non-OEM equipment. Based on the decal style, I'd place it circa 1974.
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That Falcon frame, presumably comparable to my 1959 Capo (plain gauge 531 main triangle), is much better than some of the original and replacement components. The crankset and rear derailleur are junk, but both can be replaced pretty easily. I do like the very British wraparound seat stay and leather saddle, and it appears to have a very nice all-rounder sports touring frame geometry. Unless the frame is too short for you, it is a keeper.
"A Falcon is a good English bike."
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"A Falcon is a good English bike."
-- 1970s quote from Charlie Harding of C. Harding's For Bikes, my go-to shop of that era, on Westwood Bl. near UCLA.
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Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
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Yours looks a lot like my 72' San Remo, with nicer lugs. There several San Remo options. It is a very smooth riding bike, I always enjoy the ride. I believe mine was originally bronze and painted white. I wish the bike was a tad smaller, but I'm still able to jump on it. This bike is trimmed out nice, with Zeus pedals and crank, Velox RD, campy shifters, campy seatpost.
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