Extreme condition challenges--winter
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Extreme condition challenges--winter
Can't remember if there was a similar thread lately, but it bears rehashing if there isn't. The temperature yesterday morning was -25*C with 40 kph winds and packed snow and slush on the roads that haven't melted at all due to the low temps. I did not ride.
This morning the temp was only at -20*C with no wind, but the road was still covered. I did ride. Multiple layers on my legs, dedicated winter shoes with chemical heat and neoprene covers, multiple wind layers, including a down vest under jacket, multiple face covers, extra wide 45-mm studded tires for the anticipated rough surface, even riding on sidewalk as it was better plowed. It wasn't the most pleasant but I got there and back without much drama.
So the question is what sort of challenges have you faced when it comes to gear/clothing/etc in these extreme conditions? And what solutions, creative or otherwise, have you come up with to make the commute a successful one?
This morning the temp was only at -20*C with no wind, but the road was still covered. I did ride. Multiple layers on my legs, dedicated winter shoes with chemical heat and neoprene covers, multiple wind layers, including a down vest under jacket, multiple face covers, extra wide 45-mm studded tires for the anticipated rough surface, even riding on sidewalk as it was better plowed. It wasn't the most pleasant but I got there and back without much drama.
So the question is what sort of challenges have you faced when it comes to gear/clothing/etc in these extreme conditions? And what solutions, creative or otherwise, have you come up with to make the commute a successful one?
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The biggest challenge is to find alternate routes when some of my regular routes have too much snow and are unsafe to ride. Some of the MUPS and sidewalks which I use in between to connect with roads and streets are impossible to ride when too much snow accumulates, so I have to find some alternative way which often adds extra time and distance and complexity to an already challenging commute. I've had a few " hike-a-bike" situations over the years and also had situations where I had to take a risk and ride on major arterial roads. The weather is not the main danger, I don't care how bad the weather is, the main danger is cars.
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My major issue is a lack of road maintenance. I've noticed that bike lanes (and parking lanes) on arterial streets do not get maintained, which results in a very narrow right lane. Side streets get scraped (not salted), and this is done overnight - which can make for an interesting riding experience if it snows during the day.
Morning/daytime commutes are usually fine on side streets (due to the overnight scraping), so it's the evenings that pose a challenge. Fortunately, I do not work a strict 9-5 - my hours are a bit later - so I can leave work later and avoid the drivers out doing whatever they are doing. In a town of 50,000 things get pretty dead pretty early, so I'll sometimes take an arterial, gun it, and pull over occasionally to let cars pass, or ride the middle of a side street (and similarly wave cars around). A few times, I've ended up on the sidewalk, but that gets scary.
Morning/daytime commutes are usually fine on side streets (due to the overnight scraping), so it's the evenings that pose a challenge. Fortunately, I do not work a strict 9-5 - my hours are a bit later - so I can leave work later and avoid the drivers out doing whatever they are doing. In a town of 50,000 things get pretty dead pretty early, so I'll sometimes take an arterial, gun it, and pull over occasionally to let cars pass, or ride the middle of a side street (and similarly wave cars around). A few times, I've ended up on the sidewalk, but that gets scary.
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A big issue for me is tire ruts in the slush that freeze in place. Especially when they're covered with a thin layer of snow so I don't see them until I hit them.
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Extreme condition challenges--winter
I ride well-tended, paved roads on studded tires for a commute of either 6 or 14 miles,with good cold weather dress for (rarely) under 20° F (-7° C). My watchword for Winter is “Gear and Gumption.”
I wear prescription eyeglasses, and with goggles, fogging is a dangerous situation.
I ride well-tended, paved roads on studded tires for a commute of either 6 or 14 miles,with good cold weather dress for (rarely) under 20° F (-7° C). My watchword for Winter is “Gear and Gumption.”
I wear prescription eyeglasses, and with goggles, fogging is a dangerous situation.
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I got bar mitts (to be exact the rockbros knockoff) in the mail very recently and am very happy with them. I can now wear one layer of thin gloves at -20C and not worry about the wind! And for longer rides, adding a second glove is more effective because the heat doesn't get blown away.
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the one winter I bike commuted I was lucky enough to have a boiler room at work to hang all my stuff to dry before the ride home at the end of the day. so that's one challenge, what to do with all the extra clothing which can be messy, once you get to work
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Thread? there a whole section .. https://www.bikeforums.net/winter-cycling/
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The biggest challenge is to find alternate routes when some of my regular routes have too much snow and are unsafe to ride. Some of the MUPS and sidewalks which I use in between to connect with roads and streets are impossible to ride when too much snow accumulates, so I have to find some alternative way which often adds extra time and distance and complexity to an already challenging commute. I've had a few " hike-a-bike" situations over the years and also had situations where I had to take a risk and ride on major arterial roads. The weather is not the main danger, I don't care how bad the weather is, the main danger is cars.
No, the weather isn't the danger, but it causes issues that may put one in danger.
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My major issue is a lack of road maintenance. I've noticed that bike lanes (and parking lanes) on arterial streets do not get maintained, which results in a very narrow right lane. Side streets get scraped (not salted), and this is done overnight - which can make for an interesting riding experience if it snows during the day.
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I got bar mitts (to be exact the rockbros knockoff) in the mail very recently and am very happy with them. I can now wear one layer of thin gloves at -20C and not worry about the wind! And for longer rides, adding a second glove is more effective because the heat doesn't get blown away.
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I don't normally sweat much during the winter commutes, so drying clothes is not an issue. But when my clothes do get wet from rain I have a washer/dryer set at work that I have used on a few occasions. Most times in the winter the air is so dry in my building stuff dries out quickly if you just hang it up or lay it out.
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Aside from that, they also keep my hands dry when there is rain. Ebay has them for $20-$25 for straight and drop bars (only hoods are covered, but I think you can still use the drops without brakes...)
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When it's below -15 C, I don't ride. If it's not (and there's no blizzard), I ride. The limiting factor is that I don't wear/have any special gear - just skiing jacket and gloves, and below -15 C my face and thighs start to freeze (on >1h rides the feet get cold too). I have ridden a couple of times at -20 C, but that wasn't an enjoyable experience without dedicated gear. The biggest concern usually is stretches of unmaintained roads - bumpy, uneven, rutted ice which may be covered by snow or slush.
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Thread? there a whole section .. https://www.bikeforums.net/winter-cycling/
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Extreme condition challenges--winter
Good answer.
Besides the entire Winter Cycling Forum, there was this more focused thread “Emergency Winter Cycling Kit?"
Can't remember if there was a similar thread lately, but it bears rehashing if there isn't. …
So the question is what sort of challenges have you faced when it comes to gear/clothing/etc in these extreme conditions? And what solutions, creative or otherwise, have you come up with to make the commute a successful one?
So the question is what sort of challenges have you faced when it comes to gear/clothing/etc in these extreme conditions? And what solutions, creative or otherwise, have you come up with to make the commute a successful one?
Thread? there a whole section .. https://www.bikeforums.net/winter-cycling/
Besides the entire Winter Cycling Forum, there was this more focused thread “Emergency Winter Cycling Kit?"
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I tried to ride on Wednesday - turned back and got the car. The deep powder on top of the hardpack from the last few days was just too bad, I couldn't ride. Fatbike might have been able to go, but neither the road nor the path were cleared well enough to ride on, and I wasn't going to carry my bike for 17km.
Friday I rode - still a bit slippery in spots, and the warm Thursday with rain turned into frozen footprints and tracks by Friday morning. Rough ride, maybe the only time I've really wished I had suspension or tires (much) wider than the Schwalbe Winter 700x35.
Friday I rode - still a bit slippery in spots, and the warm Thursday with rain turned into frozen footprints and tracks by Friday morning. Rough ride, maybe the only time I've really wished I had suspension or tires (much) wider than the Schwalbe Winter 700x35.
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I tried to ride on Wednesday - turned back and got the car. The deep powder on top of the hardpack from the last few days was just too bad, I couldn't ride. Fatbike might have been able to go, but neither the road nor the path were cleared well enough to ride on, and I wasn't going to carry my bike for 17km.
Friday I rode - still a bit slippery in spots, and the warm Thursday with rain turned into frozen footprints and tracks by Friday morning. Rough ride, maybe the only time I've really wished I had suspension or tires (much) wider than the Schwalbe Winter 700x35.
Friday I rode - still a bit slippery in spots, and the warm Thursday with rain turned into frozen footprints and tracks by Friday morning. Rough ride, maybe the only time I've really wished I had suspension or tires (much) wider than the Schwalbe Winter 700x35.
This upcoming week is going to be challenging with the snow and cold, again!
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I rode on Friday as well, but perhaps conditions for me were better than you. I do have 45 mm Nokian W106's, but I am thinking that I have the pressure too high to make use of the wider profile.
This upcoming week is going to be challenging with the snow and cold, again!
This upcoming week is going to be challenging with the snow and cold, again!
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No go today with the temperature at -21*C and forecast 5-10 cm of snow beginning at noon. It would have been fine to ride in but the ride home with four hours worth of snow already fallen would have been dicey, to say the least. If I had all MUP's I might have considered it, and it would still have taken twice the time. No, today I begrudgingly took the car.
With snow expected to continue to fall during the over night period, it's likely going to be my steel and glass cage again for tomorrow.
With snow expected to continue to fall during the over night period, it's likely going to be my steel and glass cage again for tomorrow.
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Most of the roads I ride are cleaned off so that's not a issue. The NW wind gusts is what gets me. Just can't handle it on the way home every night. Beats me down quick. Tonight when I leave 22 - RealFeel 0 with NW winds 24mph and gusts up to 41mph. When it gets to swirling around the west bottoms add another 20 to it.. too dangerous to ride adding that in.
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that old polar vortex is supposed to lash out angrily the next cpl of days ... good luck to you die-hards. don't die hard
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No go today with the temperature at -21*C and forecast 5-10 cm of snow beginning at noon. It would have been fine to ride in but the ride home with four hours worth of snow already fallen would have been dicey, to say the least. If I had all MUP's I might have considered it, and it would still have taken twice the time. No, today I begrudgingly took the car.
With snow expected to continue to fall during the over night period, it's likely going to be my steel and glass cage again for tomorrow.
With snow expected to continue to fall during the over night period, it's likely going to be my steel and glass cage again for tomorrow.
Yeah it's very nasty out there...I have to drive every Monday so I missed the bike commute...Tomorrow morning looks pretty bad too, my routes are snowed in, with deep snow drifts all over. If I ride tomorrow I would have to take major arterial roads which are very dangerous, I think I'll drive on Tuesday.
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Probably a good call. I'm hoping I can bike to my evening events tomorrow again.