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Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos

Old 09-17-17, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Road Fan
Who would be the resident Campy Ergo expert?

Chrome Molly

Knows more than I do.

Or Jiangshi if he checks in......
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Old 09-17-17, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Road Fan
Who would be the resident Campy Ergo expert?
(Thanks, Andy)

I think there are a number of us that have. Depends on what exactly you are after. I've done a bit of same-same and mix and matching--primarily with Shimano drivetrain and Campy cassette or vice-versa. @Dfrost has run his Sachs New Success (same as Campagnolo) with Shimano and Campagnolo 8-speed spaced cassettes with no issues. Shimano 9-speed shifting over a Campy 9-speed cassette is just fine. 10-speed to 10-speed is the same. Usually I'll try to keep everything homogeneous, but hey, Centeron pulleys exist, right?
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Old 09-18-17, 03:13 AM
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An interesting 11-speed Colnago Master build, with custom engraving on the crankset:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zaGq-S42gQg
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Old 09-21-17, 02:40 PM
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Who is using a 1" threadless carbon fork* on their retro roadie? Anyone? Please post photos


*from the likes of LOOK, Time, Colnago, etc., as well as Ritchey and Columbus more recently
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Old 09-21-17, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by velofinds
Who is using a 1" threadless carbon fork* on their retro roadie? Anyone? Please post photos


*from the likes of LOOK, Time, Colnago, etc., as well as Ritchey and Columbus more recently
I'm using a 1" threadless carbon fork on what I think is a 1980 PFN10E with Vitus 172 tubing. My research showed that in the early 80's Peugeot was moving from French threading to English to standardize. My frame had the French headset, but the BB and the RD Hanger were English threaded.

The headset on it was junk so instead of trying to source a new one, I took the opportunity to run a Kinesis Carbon fork I've had laying around for some time and so I boxed the original fork, headset, stem and bars up for another day...

[IMG]20160310_132642000_iOS by Andrew Cunningham, on Flickr[/IMG]
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Old 09-22-17, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ratfink76
I'm using a 1" threadless carbon fork on what I think is a 1980 PFN10E with Vitus 172 tubing. My research showed that in the early 80's Peugeot was moving from French threading to English to standardize. My frame had the French headset, but the BB and the RD Hanger were English threaded.

The headset on it was junk so instead of trying to source a new one, I took the opportunity to run a Kinesis Carbon fork I've had laying around for some time and so I boxed the original fork, headset, stem and bars up for another day...

[IMG]20160310_132642000_iOS by Andrew Cunningham, on Flickr[/IMG]
Thanks! Would you say that improved the bike significantly? (e.g., made it noticeably shed weight, faster/stiffer, etc.)
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Old 09-22-17, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by velofinds
Thanks! Would you say that improved the bike significantly? (e.g., made it noticeably shed weight, faster/stiffer, etc.)
It made the fork look less bent.


(I know it's a Peugeot and that the fork probably wasn't actually bent, but it still looks that way.)
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Old 09-22-17, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
It made the fork look less bent.
I noticed that as well but didn't want to say anything
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Excellent upgrade. It's obvious you know what works.
Originally Posted by ratfink76
I'm using a 1" threadless carbon fork on what I think is a 1980 PFN10E with Vitus 172 tubing. My research showed that in the early 80's Peugeot was moving from French threading to English to standardize. My frame had the French headset, but the BB and the RD Hanger were English threaded.

The headset on it was junk so instead of trying to source a new one, I took the opportunity to run a Kinesis Carbon fork I've had laying around for some time and so I boxed the original fork, headset, stem and bars up for another day...
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Old 09-23-17, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by velofinds
Who is using a 1" threadless carbon fork* on their retro roadie? Anyone? Please post photos


*from the likes of LOOK, Time, Colnago, etc., as well as Ritchey and Columbus more recently
Not my bike, but my friend built it and I dialed it in. He likes the steerer uncut, for now. 1" threadless headset with 1" threadless CF fork. Frame was originally 1" threaded, so the swap-over would be the same for steel as it is for the Kestrel.

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Old 09-23-17, 11:38 AM
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This thing looks beastly. The Centurion Batmobile.
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Old 09-23-17, 02:49 PM
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Campagnolo Ergo Record 11 Speed

So This was taken ages ago with my first bike; however, I had a set of Campagnolo Ergo Record 11 speed attached onto my old Schwinn World. lol I also had a full Dura-ace setup in the back. I was in the process of doing an upgrade to full campy drive train.



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Old 09-23-17, 04:24 PM
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Where's the "LIKE" button? This is one sweet build...
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Old 09-23-17, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by velofinds
Thanks! Would you say that improved the bike significantly? (e.g., made it noticeably shed weight, faster/stiffer, etc.)
So the original purchase was inexpensive because the rear axle nuts had come so loose the bearings had fallen out so the rear wheel was just a wobbly mess... and as mentioned the headset was not in great shape, so I can't give you a before/after quote on ride improvement.

I will say that this is my second go to bike in my stable. The fork plays well off the geometry of this frame and is very responsive - the carbon fork and carbon bars combo make for a nice smooth ride also...

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Excellent upgrade. It's obvious you know what works.
Thank you sir!! Can you talk to my wife and explain that to her?
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Old 09-24-17, 09:54 AM
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I see the affinity for "H2O," heh heh....

Nice work.

That looks like the bridge at Newport, but not sure. Been years since I was there.

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So This was taken ages ago with my first bike; however, I had a set of Campagnolo Ergo Record 11 speed attached onto my old Schwinn World. lol I also had a full Dura-ace setup in the back. I was in the process of doing an upgrade to full campy drive train.




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Old 09-24-17, 09:56 AM
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Just wanted to say....

This thread continues to be the "made it happen" thread:

Ingenuity.
Craftsmanship.
Perseverance.
Vision.
Blissful Ignorance.
Functionality.
Art.

Thank you all, by the way.
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Old 09-24-17, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Road Fan
Who would be the resident Campy Ergo expert?
What was the question. Never mind, here's the answers...
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Originally Posted by velofinds
Who is using a 1" threadless carbon fork* on their retro roadie? Anyone? Please post photos


*from the likes of LOOK, Time, Colnago, etc., as well as Ritchey and Columbus more recently
1 in treadless full carbon on Trek 957 frame
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Originally Posted by Andy_K
It made the fork look less bent.


(I know it's a Peugeot and that the fork probably wasn't actually bent, but it still looks that way.)
Originally Posted by velofinds
I noticed that as well but didn't want to say anything
I think it is because of the angle of the photo, but mostly because of the headset being trashed and the fork tube not being straight in the headtube...
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Old 09-24-17, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Chrome Molly
1 in treadless full carbon on Trek 957 frame
Wow, nice Trek outfitted with 11s Campy. What are your ride impressions pre- and post-carbon fork?
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Old 09-24-17, 12:44 PM
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I'll dig some pictures out later but I've got a 90s Bontrager that I've run with a variety of forks (1 inch), a Time carbon jobbie but with steel steerer, a full steel Columbus fork, and a full carbon Columbus fork. Have also swapped those forks around on a 90s Trek and my 80s Woodrup too.

Basically, the carbon forks are lighter...but the steel fork is more comfy. That's not a generalisation and shouldn't be extrapolated to other forks, it's just my experience of those specific forks.

I prefer the ride of a decent steel fork, but I do use the carbon ones on lighter more racy builds. The fully carbon Columbus one is silly light ~340g !
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Originally Posted by velofinds
Wow, nice Trek outfitted with 11s Campy. What are your ride impressions pre- and post-carbon fork?
I followed him for 95 miles on Aug 12. It appears to work well.
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Originally Posted by ratfink76
I think it is because of the angle of the photo, but mostly because of the headset being trashed and the fork tube not being straight in the headtube...
I really did think it's just because it's a Peugeot. They almost always look bent to me, and I think I read somewhere that they came new with a slight backward angle on the blades.
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Originally Posted by RobbieTunes
I see the affinity for "H2O," heh heh....

Nice work.

That looks like the bridge at Newport, but not sure. Been years since I was there.
LOL. Yeah totally. I dunno, water fascinates me. That is poor excuse.

But that bridge is Verrazano-Narrows bridge during the New York City century. The second one with the ducks is in Long Island, NY
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