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Old 07-23-19, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by saverin
Has anyone tested the performance of the grooved brake track? wondering if it provides any improvement in performance over the std 'high temp' brake track.
It’s possible to slightly overheat the grooved graphene track. The sound goes from a pleasant whir to a shrill screech. The necessary force goes up slightly as well. But this is only on exceptionally technical descents. I’ve done the same with my alloy wheelset. No wet testing yet - don’t think it’s going to rain in CA for a while. I haven’t tested the non-grooved either but it’s supposedly only better in the dry and I don’t really expect much more dry power.
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Old 07-24-19, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by smashndash
It’s possible to slightly overheat the grooved graphene track. The sound goes from a pleasant whir to a shrill screech. The necessary force goes up slightly as well. But this is only on exceptionally technical descents. I’ve done the same with my alloy wheelset. No wet testing yet - don’t think it’s going to rain in CA for a while. I haven’t tested the non-grooved either but it’s supposedly only better in the dry and I don’t really expect much more dry power.
Just asking for clarity, and don't mean to insinuate anything regarding your skills with setting up your brakes, but are your brakes properly toe'd in?
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Old 07-24-19, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by saverin
Just asking for clarity, and don't mean to insinuate anything regarding your skills with setting up your brakes, but are your brakes properly toe'd in?
Fair enough. I don’t toe in my brake pads. I’ve found that pads naturally wear in the toe-in direction. Initially, yes they feel weird but they wear in fine. Also I felt like I lost power when I tried toeing-in in the past. I could see the screeching being fixed by the toe-in for sure, but I think it’s more of a result of the brake track heating up and the “slip” being more frequent.

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Old 07-28-19, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by smashndash
It’s possible to slightly overheat the grooved graphene track. The sound goes from a pleasant whir to a shrill screech. The necessary force goes up slightly as well. But this is only on exceptionally technical descents. I’ve done the same with my alloy wheelset. No wet testing yet - don’t think it’s going to rain in CA for a while. I haven’t tested the non-grooved either but it’s supposedly only better in the dry and I don’t really expect much more dry power.
I'm familiar with that noise from coming down GMR a month or so ago.
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Old 07-29-19, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by smashndash
It’s possible to slightly overheat the grooved graphene track. The sound goes from a pleasant whir to a shrill screech. The necessary force goes up slightly as well. But this is only on exceptionally technical descents. I’ve done the same with my alloy wheelset. No wet testing yet - don’t think it’s going to rain in CA for a while. I haven’t tested the non-grooved either but it’s supposedly only better in the dry and I don’t really expect much more dry power.
Yup, same here, but only on very hard braking efforts, like on a technical descent as mentioned. No loss in braking power, just some extra noise.
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Old 07-31-19, 03:31 AM
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These Light Bicycle wheels look great! Any downsides? Tnx!
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Old 07-31-19, 01:05 PM
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For disc brakes? Just the delivery time.
For rim brakes? Above + the brake tracks can't take the same heat some brand name units can because they use fancier resins.
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Old 08-01-19, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jfranci3
For rim brakes? Above + the brake tracks can't take the same heat some brand name units can because they use fancier resins.
What makes you say this? I have yet to see a single report of any type of resin failure or braking issues with any LB rim brake rims.
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Old 08-01-19, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Rides4Beer
What makes you say this? I have yet to see a single report of any type of resin failure or braking issues with any LB rim brake rims.
He's thinking of the way things used to be 5 years ago.
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Old 08-01-19, 08:50 AM
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Have offshore rims upped their resin game?


https://cyclingtips.com/2012/11/josh-poertner-zipp/

Current survey...
Looks like common carbon resin: 160c-200c
LB says they are using 280c stuff
Zipp uses 320c now (??)

Looks like the non-US, non-UK resins have improved a great deal. 240c was the 2012 standard, now we're at that for most rims on the market.
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Old 08-01-19, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Light Bicycle emailed the graphic below.

As suspected, the grooves point in the direction of travel.

Have you built up these wheels yet?
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Old 08-04-19, 07:20 AM
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I just received my R45 wheelset and the quality is great. However, to my surprise, they didn't come with rim strips. I think every wheel I've purchased over the years has always come with them so I've never actually purchased any before. The strips from my aluminum Boyd wheels appears too wide

Can someone point me in the right direction for the correct rim strips? The Inner/Outer is Width 17.9mm/25mm

Also, these will be setup with standard tubes, not tubeless but I'm reading that I should just use tubeless tape. is that correct?

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Old 08-04-19, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve90068
Can someone point me in the right direction for the correct rim strips? The Inner/Outer is Width 17.9mm/25mm
If you can measure the size of the spoke holes, then you will know for sure, but ideally the tape should cover as much of the flat bottom center section of the rim as it can. Something like 14-622 is more than likely pretty close to the right size for any road rim. You don't need to use tape specifically branded for tubeless, unless you think you might want to do that in the future. Something like Continental Easy Tape or Schwalbe Rim Tape would be fine.
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Old 08-04-19, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve90068
I just received my R45 wheelset and the quality is great. However, to my surprise, they didn't come with rim strips. I think every wheel I've purchased over the years has always come with them so I've never actually purchased any before. The strips from my aluminum Boyd wheels appears too wide

Can someone point me in the right direction for the correct rim strips? The Inner/Outer is Width 17.9mm/25mm

Also, these will be setup with standard tubes, not tubeless but I'm reading that I should just use tubeless tape. is that correct?
My Reynold's are 1mm more narrow internally and require 21/22mm tape. I'd def go with tubeless tape - tolerances can be tight, so go with the thinner tape to minimize potential tire mounting headaches.
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Old 08-04-19, 08:13 PM
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My set of 56mm rim brakes have some 3000km now, been ridden in hills a lot, braking tracks look almost like new, just slightly "polished/brighter".

When the are very hot they can do squeak/whistle if you brake hard/long, but will work fine. The limiting factor is still not braking harder cuz I'd fly over the bars, so they brake better than I can actually use.

The brake pads are the ones that came with it, LB blue pads. No sign of wear, they just look a bit "dirty", darker blue where it touches the rim.

I use mtb rim tape by SunRingle (what lbs had) 21mm wide (I would have tried wider but lbs had 21mm only so whatever), with 25mm GP5k tubeless tire, zero sealant. Hard to fit but doable with plastic levers. They measure 29mm wide inflated.

Bitex hubs are going strong.


Thats it guys, just buy those babies, they are great. Fast light strong cheap and beautiful, plus crosswinds aren't a concern eventhough I'm light. I only use those now full time, the old Zipps are gone, climbing wheels are gone, 32spoke training wheels are gone. What else could I want?

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Old 08-08-19, 02:43 PM
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Just got these mounted up. The front wheel isn't perfectly true which is annoying but otherwise everything looks great


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Old 08-08-19, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by noodle soup
Have you built up these wheels yet?
Sorry I didn't see this.

They are at ProWheelBuilder as I type this. ETA is August 14.

No rush, really, as I believe I might have a stress fracture in my tibia. Waiting for radiology to read the x-rays and will no more in a day or two but it doesn't feel good. If so then I'll be reading books for a few weeks rather than cycling.


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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Sorry I didn't see this.

They are at ProWheelBuilder as I type this. ETA is August 14.

No rush, really, as I believe I might have a stress fracture in my tibia. Waiting for radiology to read the x-rays and will no more in a day or two but it doesn't feel good. If so then I'll be reading books for a few weeks rather than cycling.


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Oooo. Ouchie. Sucky end to a cycling season.
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Old 08-08-19, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Ericoschmitt
My set of 56mm rim brakes have some 3000km now, been ridden in hills a lot, braking tracks look almost like new, just slightly "polished/brighter".

When the are very hot they can do squeak/whistle if you brake hard/long, but will work fine. The limiting factor is still not braking harder cuz I'd fly over the bars, so they brake better than I can actually use.

The brake pads are the ones that came with it, LB blue pads. No sign of wear, they just look a bit "dirty", darker blue where it touches the rim.

I use mtb rim tape by SunRingle (what lbs had) 21mm wide (I would have tried wider but lbs had 21mm only so whatever), with 25mm GP5k tubeless tire, zero sealant. Hard to fit but doable with plastic levers. They measure 29mm wide inflated.

Bitex hubs are going strong.


Thats it guys, just buy those babies, they are great. Fast light strong cheap and beautiful, plus crosswinds aren't a concern eventhough I'm light. I only use those now full time, the old Zipps are gone, climbing wheels are gone, 32spoke training wheels are gone. What else could I want?

May I ask what brakes you're running? Like the specific model?
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Oooo. Ouchie. Sucky end to a cycling season.
Life goes on and I'll refocus.

People at Church have been asking me to start a new Bible study and I really should. God works in mysterious ways!

Fill me with joy and gladness;
let the bones which you have crushed rejoice.

- Psalm 51:8


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Old 08-08-19, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve90068
The front wheel isn't perfectly true which is annoying but otherwise everything looks great

Nice. Were your wheels built in China or North America?
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Originally Posted by Deceiver
May I ask what brakes you're running? Like the specific model?
Campagnolo skeleton non-series (the cheapest one), I bet any skeleton would work
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Originally Posted by August West
Nice. Were your wheels built in China or North America?
china
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Originally Posted by Ericoschmitt
Campagnolo skeleton non-series (the cheapest one), I bet any skeleton would work
Ahh yeah oops, you had told me that before.

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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Sorry I didn't see this.

They are at ProWheelBuilder as I type this. ETA is August 14.

No rush, really, as I believe I might have a stress fracture in my tibia. Waiting for radiology to read the x-rays and will no more in a day or two but it doesn't feel good. If so then I'll be reading books for a few weeks rather than cycling.


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Sorry to hear about the possible injury. Sometimes a little forced rest will make you come back a little more rested and focused.
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