Dilemma: Aluminum again, or carbon?
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Dilemma: Aluminum again, or carbon?
I'm looking for some helpful buying decisions for my next bike. As a footnote, my wife and I will be buying a home and potentially starting a family soon, so this could be the last bike for a long, long time. For that reason, I've got to think long-term before I drop any coin, and that's where my dilemma is.
I have a '12 CAAD10-3 that I have some buyers lined up for. I've considered a new CAAD10-3, as I genuinely like how the bike rides (granted, I've never ridden anything else), the new stealth color scheme, the slightly lighter and more durable anodized finish, the 11-speed group, and the Hollowgram cranks. With the low cost of the CAAD, I could afford to put the Spidering on it, carbon bars, stem, and a different carbon post to give it a real nice, smooth ride and free up some weight. It's also cheap enough of a frame that I could possibly sell it off to upgrade in a few years.
But, like everyone else, I can't help but think if I'm going to buy something new and long-term, I should go carbon. I've considered a few options, with the new Tarmac Expert really standing out. I can get one for around $3,500, but that would mostly tap my budget out, so it'd just stay stock. While carbon is attractive, I'll admit I'm somewhat leery of riding a $3,000 frame I could break in one spill, because honestly, I couldn't afford to replace it in that situation.
These two options (and some other carbon bikes) are close enough in price/value that I'm having a hard time drawing any final conclusion. Cheaper aluminum with great aftermarket parts, or more of a stock carbon bike? (I already have wheels, so that doesn't play a part at all).
I have a '12 CAAD10-3 that I have some buyers lined up for. I've considered a new CAAD10-3, as I genuinely like how the bike rides (granted, I've never ridden anything else), the new stealth color scheme, the slightly lighter and more durable anodized finish, the 11-speed group, and the Hollowgram cranks. With the low cost of the CAAD, I could afford to put the Spidering on it, carbon bars, stem, and a different carbon post to give it a real nice, smooth ride and free up some weight. It's also cheap enough of a frame that I could possibly sell it off to upgrade in a few years.
But, like everyone else, I can't help but think if I'm going to buy something new and long-term, I should go carbon. I've considered a few options, with the new Tarmac Expert really standing out. I can get one for around $3,500, but that would mostly tap my budget out, so it'd just stay stock. While carbon is attractive, I'll admit I'm somewhat leery of riding a $3,000 frame I could break in one spill, because honestly, I couldn't afford to replace it in that situation.
These two options (and some other carbon bikes) are close enough in price/value that I'm having a hard time drawing any final conclusion. Cheaper aluminum with great aftermarket parts, or more of a stock carbon bike? (I already have wheels, so that doesn't play a part at all).
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first off. forget about the wife and kids. dead end. just an unnecessary complication really. irrelevant...
get a carbon bike, you'll never know what you've been missing, good or bad, if you don't.
get a carbon bike, you'll never know what you've been missing, good or bad, if you don't.
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Flip a coin. Then you'll discover what you really want.
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Ok, I will bite...why sell a Caad-10 so that you can buy a new Caad-10? Why not just upgrade the one you have? If you are going to upgrade, then upgrade. Don't sell one bike at a discount because it is used so that you can buy the same bike at a premium price. That is not an upgrade, that is spending money to have something new. I would start with figuring out what it is about your existing bike that you don't like and think needs to be upgraded. From there, figure out if it is more cost effective to buy a whole new bike to get what you are looking for or if you would be better off just upgrading the group or components. Believe me, once you buy a house, you will find PLENTY of things to spend money on...
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You can probably repair a cracked carbon frame for $300 to $500. You can probably buy a replacement CAAD10 frame for about $500. So unless your carbon frame is in multiple pieces, the cost will be similar. In a pinch, the Nashbar carbon frames are often on sale for $500 or $600.
I personally wouldn't bother selling a CAAD10 to buy another CAAD10 just for the different color and 11 speed -- the frame is still the same platform. However, maybe you'll enjoy the new bike more after a color change and newer groupset, so it'll be worth it to you?
I personally wouldn't bother selling a CAAD10 to buy another CAAD10 just for the different color and 11 speed -- the frame is still the same platform. However, maybe you'll enjoy the new bike more after a color change and newer groupset, so it'll be worth it to you?
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Ok, I will bite...why sell a Caad-10 so that you can buy a new Caad-10? Why not just upgrade the one you have? If you are going to upgrade, then upgrade. Don't sell one bike at a discount because it is used so that you can buy the same bike at a premium price. That is not an upgrade, that is spending money to have something new.
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Ok, I will bite...why sell a Caad-10 so that you can buy a new Caad-10? Why not just upgrade the one you have? If you are going to upgrade, then upgrade. Don't sell one bike at a discount because it is used so that you can buy the same bike at a premium price. That is not an upgrade, that is spending money to have something new. I would start with figuring out what it is about your existing bike that you don't like and think needs to be upgraded. From there, figure out if it is more cost effective to buy a whole new bike to get what you are looking for or if you would be better off just upgrading the group or components. Believe me, once you buy a house, you will find PLENTY of things to spend money on...
(Edit: I see now that you clarified your reasoning. Bummer about your paint. I'd guess 6800, and definately 5800, is cheaper than you are thinking.)
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I have actually put a few miles on a non-Evo SuperSix and honestly had to search for big holes in the pavement to run over just to see if I could really feel a difference. Normal riding, it didn't seem any smoother to me.
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The bottom end carbon bikes just usually aren't that exceptional compared to a high quality aluminum frame with good components. They usually have to compromise the components too much to reach their price point and end up with a squishy bike with heavy wheels. You probably won't see much difference between a CAAD-10 and a ~$2000 carbon bike.
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Steel?
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Buy a used titanium frame and build that up. You'll have a bike with a great feel, that should last for a very long time.
I spent months trolling ebay until my patience paid off. I can't see any reason to ride my carbon (2013 Roubaix) bike again, to the point I'm considering selling it and using the money to turn the Ti bike into a monster.
I spent months trolling ebay until my patience paid off. I can't see any reason to ride my carbon (2013 Roubaix) bike again, to the point I'm considering selling it and using the money to turn the Ti bike into a monster.
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Ok, I will bite...why sell a Caad-10 so that you can buy a new Caad-10? Why not just upgrade the one you have? If you are going to upgrade, then upgrade. Don't sell one bike at a discount because it is used so that you can buy the same bike at a premium price. That is not an upgrade, that is spending money to have something new. I would start with figuring out what it is about your existing bike that you don't like and think needs to be upgraded. From there, figure out if it is more cost effective to buy a whole new bike to get what you are looking for or if you would be better off just upgrading the group or components. Believe me, once you buy a house, you will find PLENTY of things to spend money on...
You can come out with a rocking caad 10.
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Well, I figure just to buy the 6800 groupset (or even Force, Dura-Ace, or Red) and the crankset is going to cost nearly as much, if not just as much as buying the whole bike. The bonus is a frame that's virtually the same but slightly improved. I've had a lot of trouble with the paint peeling off my frame, so anodize would be a welcome thing.
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I bought into the hype and got a '06 Giant TCR2. Only got to test it in the parking lot. During my first ride I was thinking about the money I wasted. Nice bike for sure but I didn't like the dead feeling. DB spokes and 25mm tires do more to reduce road vibrations to me. These hydroformed alu frames today are very under rated and very sweet rides and I prefer a more lively feeling than carbon gives.
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Spend as much as you can now because in a few years you won't be riding. You'll be making endless trips to Home Depot for your "honey do" projects.
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